Media Manager Next

[kongondo]

59 minutes ago, David Karich said:

Two questions: how should uploads happen? Can I just upload assets via DND in a folder or is the "New" button meant for uploads? If so, I would give it a different name, e.g. "Upload Media".

1. Uploads: Three way (all upload to the current category):
   • DnD
   • Via right click which pops open a contextual dialog and you select 'upload'
   • Via the 'New' button, which pops open a contextual dialog and you select 'upload'
2. New Button: Opens a dialog/dropdown from which you can choose :  'new folder',  'file upload'  or 'folder upload' [this latter one will also create the virtual folder, i.e. category]

1 hour ago, David Karich said:

Second question: does the search always refer to the entire library or only to the currently selected folder? Can I change the search behaviour in an advanced mode?

By default, yes, it is the entire library. However, there will be advanced search, accessible by clicking some icon within the search box. It will open a dialog within which you can set search parameters such as type, name, date, category, etc.

[MrSnoozles]

On 5/13/2023 at 1:17 PM, kongondo said:

Happy to get early feedback, thanks.

This looks so much cleaner and easier to use than the current version. The context menu looks very nice already. The other elements could need some more polishing - I know that's not been a priority yet, still you asked for feedback ?

Some things I noticed on the video
- a breadcrumb navigation should be visible to reflect the directory navigation (when you click on people it disappears, when you click on "men" it should show People > Men)
- the selected category and parent categories should be visible (when you click the "men" category nothing is active) (it would probably look nicer to use bold text instead of green)
- the spacings and alignments look a bit off. Some inspiration: 

https://demo.filerun.com/?username=admin&password=admin
and the screenshots below

 

 

 

 

 

[kongondo]

19 hours ago, MrSnoozles said:

Some things I noticed on the video
- a breadcrumb navigation should be visible to reflect the directory navigation (when you click on people it disappears, when you click on "men" it should show People > Men)

Hi @MrSnoozles, Thanks for the feedback. Yes, a breadcrumb navigation is planned. I haven't started work on it yet. It will be very similar to Google Drive (i.e. like the demo.filerun).

19 hours ago, MrSnoozles said:

- the selected category and parent categories should be visible (when you click the "men" category nothing is active) (it would probably look nicer to use bold text instead of green)

True. And the 'green' is just for testing. So, no decision made there yet.

19 hours ago, MrSnoozles said:

- the spacings and alignments look a bit off. Some inspiration: 

The browser for the recording was zoomed in at around 175% so that could be the reason but I've note this, thanks.

Thanks!

6 hours ago, fruid said:

is this version already available? Or any update for my current version? I'm on version 0.1.2 and was hoping an update would solve some bugs…

Hi @fruid. No. As mentioned in the post with the video demo, the next MM will not be available until after the summer at the earliest.

6 hours ago, fruid said:

One bug I'm having is the pagination (not sure if I mentioned this before). I cannot go to the next pages in the MM pagination. And the little wheel loads forever, see screenshot.

I have also just noticed this. It must be related to a newer version of ProcessWire. I am only noticing it in 'All media' view. Pagination is working fine if viewing a single media type. 

6 hours ago, fruid said:

Also, on the bottom you can read

Media Manager (Process) v0.1.2

twice. Seems buggy.

It shouldn't show twice and yes, I have also seen this if in 'All media' view. That footer is not inserted by Media Manager. It is inserted by ProcessPageLister which is the class that ProcessMediaManager extends. The next version of MM will not be extending ProcessPageLister so this error won't occur.

5 hours ago, fruid said:

Exact as processed filename

Good idea. I'll add this.

2 hours ago, fruid said:

I tried this approach but I get

Value set to field 'mema_images' must be a MediaManagerArray

(mema_images being the field of type "MediaManager" on the template for the pages where I want to "add" images or technically speaking refer to the image-pages)

Sorry about that. I'll have a look.

1 hour ago, fruid said:

In an upcoming version, could you add the page-ID of the image when listing (or detail view) of an image in the MM? I can see title, name, dimensions, filesize, tags, … but no ID.

Will do.

1 hour ago, fruid said:

I hope you appreciate the feedback.

Totally! Thanks for all the feedback!

[nurkka]

Hi kongondo,

I just watched the video and it looks very good! I already sent some suggestions a while ago, but I wanted to repeat an important one: I have some projects where the clients have lots of PDFs with very long detailed technical names. I assume the PDFs won't have thumbnails in Media Manager, so it would be very good if one could switch the view to a really compact list view, where the filenames would not be cropped. Perhaps in this list view also some other meta data could be shown, like filesize etc. Also I would add that the filenames or image titles as shown in the video are cropped in a way it makes them nearly unreadable. So I am wondering if you could consider an option to not crop those titles or filenames at all?

[David Karich]

Hey @kongondo, is there actually anything new to see here? ?

[kongondo]

On 7/15/2023 at 12:29 AM, David Karich said:

Hey @kongondo, is there actually anything new to see here? ?

Hey @David Karich. No, nothing new I am afraid. A few unrelated stuff came up that I have had to focus on. This should be over in the next 2-3 weeks after which I'll resume the work on MM.

[ampersand83]

Hi @kongondo,

I bought version 0.12 of the MediaManager Module a few years ago. On php 7.2 and the latest processwire version 3.0.223 the module works great and everything as expected.
As php 7.2 and all other 7.x php versions are out of maintenace by now I tried to upgrade my dev server to php 8.2 but now the MediaManager module doesn't seem to work anymore.
Images can't be uploaded correctly anymore. As I see in the filesystem they are uploaded into a folder site\assets\MediaManager\jqfu\.files_no_show and hence are not displayed in the cms.

Judging by the post under https://mediamanager.kongondo.com/troubleshooting/ there used to be a bug in processwire that caused a similar behaviour of the mediamanager module but as the
module is running smoothly with the lates processwire version with php 7.2 my guess is that my problems with the mediamanager under php 8.2 are caused by that php version.

Have you tested MediaManager 0.1.2 with php 8.2? If not and you don't have any advice on how to make images uploadable again I will unfortunately have to wait for MediaManager Next to be released and buy this version.

 

Update:

Hey @kongondo,

I made work again. After my upgrade to php 8.2 the gd library wasn't enabled and this caused the upload problems. Anyways when having debug mode in processwire enabled I get some deprecation warnings, e.g. when trying to edit an image in Media Manager. This doesn't seem to have any influence on the functionality of the Media Manager yet but I suppose with the next php version update at least Media Manager in version 0.12 won't work anymore.

[MrSnoozles]

@kongondo Is there more to see in the meantime? ?

[kongondo]

On 10/18/2023 at 11:05 AM, MrSnoozles said:

@kongondo Is there more to see in the meantime? ?

Hi @MrSnoozles, all.

Sorry I have been awfully quiet. I have been very busy with a number of projects. This has caused a delay regarding MM Next work. I am going to be away this week for about 2 weeks without access to the internet. This will quieten down a bit then with the other projects and I'll be able to continue with MM Next. Apologies for this!

 

[sebibu]

@kongondo I just switched for the last project from MODX to Processwire and for the next bigger project a media manager is crucial.

Your screencast, the ideas and conversations look very promising and I would love to buy and use the new version already. But unfortunately no progress on this for a long time. Can you surprise us??

Can I test or buy the current/old version of the media manager? Your shop seems to be in maintenance mode for a long time, if I‘m not wrong!?

Thanks in advance & Cheers Sebastian

[kongondo]

Hi @sebibu,

On 3/6/2024 at 7:09 PM, sebibu said:

Your screencast, the ideas and conversations look very promising and I would love to buy and use the new version already. But unfortunately no progress on this for a long time. Can you surprise us??

Yes. I am hoping to do so soon ?. I'll post an update later this week.

On 3/6/2024 at 7:09 PM, sebibu said:

Your shop seems to be in maintenance mode for a long time, if I‘m not wrong!?

Yes, sorry, this (see bit about shop):

 

[Sonia Margollé]

I'm really looking forward to this module. That's the only thing I think is lacking in PW

[gebeer]

@kongondo any plans for a release date?

We have the feature request from our client for batch editing MM pages. Something like how ListerPro does it would be awesome.

[kongondo]

On 3/16/2024 at 10:54 AM, kongondo said:

I'll post an update later this week.

Apologies all! I did not keep my word! A number of things beyond my control happened but now I am back. Shop is open. I will post an update tomorrow about MM Next. Thanks.!

[kongondo]

Hi all,

I am turning out to be a liar at this rate! I really should stop talking about 'tomorrow'. I can only apologise.

Projects and Padloper 009 kept me very busy the last many months! I wasn't able to do much on MM next. During that time, I realised that a number of underlying concepts of MM had to change. Hence, I started a re-write of MM but the pace was slow due to afore mentioned reasons. Now that Padloper 009 is out of the way, my main coding focus is on MM! I am quite confident that I'll be able to have a release within a month. This will be a late alpha or early beta, but at least something that can be tested. 

I don't take your patience for granted. I am trying my best not to let you down this time ?.

Thanks!

 

[gebeer]

On 5/11/2024 at 12:03 AM, kongondo said:

I really should stop talking about 'tomorrow

I think we have all been there -  don't worry ?

I tend to put myself under pressure quite often. Only to realize afterwards that it was totally unnecessary. Maybe related to my zodiac sign? It sometimes would be a healthier decision to just take the time I needed and also communicate that.

[kongondo]

Hey all,

Quick update. I have made some good progress with the re-write. However, I have run into some critical money issues so I have had to pause this work until that is resolved :-).

Thanks.

[cpx3]

Hi @kongondo, as you ignore all the mails, I try it here: I bought the current version of Mediamanager which turned out quite useless as your "Coming soon" documentation is more than ridiculous. Is there any chance that there will be a documentation for that paid product that helps me use it?

Thanks in advance,
Cpx3

[gebeer]

54 minutes ago, cpx3 said:

Hi @kongondo, as you ignore all the mails, I try it here: I bought the current version of Mediamanager which turned out quite useless as your "Coming soon" documentation is more than ridiculous. Is there any chance that there will be a documentation for that paid product that helps me use it?

Thanks in advance,
Cpx3

I am running the current ("old") version of MM. The documentation at https://mediamanager.kongondo.com/documentation/ used to be for that version.

Checking the docs, I just realized that they are work in progress. Where has the documentation for the current ("old") version gone? It would be useful (not only for new users of your module) if they still could access the documentation for the current version. This would certainly help to avoid frustration ?

When MM Next is out, there should still be documentation for the old version alongside the new one.

[cpx3]

@gebeer, the problem is that there never has been any documentation for any version. I mailed @kogondo three times asking for help but he simply ignores all mails. 

[kongondo]

Hi @cpx3,

On 7/5/2024 at 8:44 AM, cpx3 said:

I bought the current version of Mediamanager

Thanks for the purchase.

On 7/5/2024 at 8:44 AM, cpx3 said:

as you ignore all the mails

I would never do this. I am sorry that this is how you feel. Could you please, via a PM, let me know what your email address is?  I check my emails regularly and try to respond as soon as I can. It could be that I somehow missed your email! 

On 7/5/2024 at 8:44 AM, cpx3 said:

Is there any chance that there will be a documentation for that paid product that helps me use it?

Yes there will be.  

On 7/5/2024 at 2:21 PM, cpx3 said:

I mailed @kogondo three times asking for help but he simply ignores all mails. 

I would never do this, I promise. For queries that I cannot resolve via email, here or PM, I usually ask for remote access to the site to debug the issue. This is not an excuse for the currently unfinished documentation though!

On 7/5/2024 at 9:46 AM, gebeer said:

Where has the documentation for the current ("old") version gone? It would be useful (not only for new users of your module) if they still could access the documentation for the current version. This would certainly help to avoid frustration

Some of it (the basics) is still there. I admit, it is in a terrible state as @cpx3 has mentioned. My plan is to get MM Next out first, then work on the documentation. It is not ideal though as I would have wanted these to be ready simultaneously. 

On 7/5/2024 at 9:46 AM, gebeer said:

When MM Next is out, there should still be documentation for the old version alongside the new one.

This is a good shout! Will ensure so.

 

[froot]

Hi @kongondo !

I'm still having the same issues as half a year ago, namely that I cannot navigate to the next paginated page inside MM. I was hoping that the next major update would fix that.

Do you have an estimate when that will be released? Or can you help me fix the acute issues?

[kongondo]

Hi @froot,

Sorry to hear the issue still persists! I have a feeling it is unique to your environment/setup as no one has reported something similar.

12 hours ago, froot said:

Or can you help me fix the acute issues?

Definitely! ?. Please PM details to your server where I can debug the issue. I'd need a temporary superuser account.

Thanks.