Ivan Gretsky

I've seen it on 3.0.219. Just upgraded to the latest dev (3.0.241) and it is got even worse - can't open module config in admin at all:

@horst, how do you do? I do not have WireMailRouter on none of my sites either. Sorry. But I have a bug with my new installation. And it seems to be a long standing - see here. Could you please look into it?

@sodesign, you do not need to create process module for it. You can put this Repeater Matrix menu builder field on any template. For example, on home page. Or create a dedicated template and page for the settings and put it there. You can make a link to it in the top menu with this module (to make it easy). Then you will use these field's value wherever you need to render menu: <?php $menuBuilder = $pages->get('/settings-page/')->menu_builder;

Good day Wire-cli users! I am here to say thanks to @flydevfor his recent small but game-changing fix. This now allows to automate PW installation via script more easily. And you don't have to have Wire-cli installed globally. # clone the repo git clone https://github.com/wirecli/wire-cli.git # update vendors composer update -d wire-cli/ # check if the tool is working php wire-cli/wirecli -V # install PW php wire-cli/wirecli new --force [...other options here] @Jonathan Lahijani, I remember you were interested in this.

When I was in school I had a PHP 4 book. A printed book made of paper. And a Macromedia Dreamweaver book too. When I started to learn webdev with Joomla! I consulted a lot with my former classmate. And occasionally asked something on a forum. When I thought about getting into Drupal I watched a lot of Youtube tutorials. When I started to learn PW the forum was my best friend and I spent hours here. And then the docs got better - I started to read those before going to sleep. And then I learned to read the source code and to find it interesting enough to do it instead of watching Youtube. When I started to learn htmx I had to join their discord. It was nice there and the answers came quickly. But I couldn't find anything by myself. When I needed to get a jumpstart on Laravel, I got my Laracasts account and started to read the docs again. When I need to get my head around some vue stuff I know not enough about I ask Cursor AI and it gives me quick answers most of which really help me to move forward. What's that all about? I do not know yet. Is that about I am old and TOO old to learn something on TikToc? Is that about our lives getting more digital, fragmented and quick? Is it about loosing local real-world in-person communications to around-the-globe communities and AI or making the world "be as one" through better means of communications and freedom of consciousness? Is it about each generation living in its own media and making it the part of the message? There is some room for interpretation here. But I've spent so much time in PW forms, and got so much out of it, and put so much of myself into it I tend to prefer it over "other stuff". I do not know if it is the forum principle itself, its size (not so big and cozy), the great people here or something else. Many times in the past I was even a bit angry on Ryan for him not push PW on every platform and occasion. For PW not grow fast enough and conquer the webdev world. But now I kind of think it is for the good. You can't be this and that in the same time, you can't be everything for everybody. And even if you could It probably wouldn't make you more happy. I do not know how to end this. No moral in the end. Just sending love to all yall here! Go see and join all pinkary, bluish and yellowish places wherever they are. And come back here to tell us about them 😉

Good question, @wbmnfktr! When I came to PW from Joomla! that had an extension for everything including ecommerce and forums, I was kind of expecting PW to be the same. And I was waiting for a good shop and forum to be developed (by someone but me)) But time passes. I am not so idealistic now. I use ProcessWire for sites and some apps. I use other tools for online shops. I do not use nothing for forums as nobody I do stuff for really needs them. For a documentation site I would use VitePress, Docusaurus or MkDocs as they allow a more easy collaboration via github or such. Ryan doesn't use PW as a forum engine or to sell modules. But he does for the docs. But maybe he shouldn't so the community could participate @teppo uses PW for weekly.pw and wireframe site. I like the former and would argue about the latter for the same reasons. @kongondo uses PW for his site but VitePress for the docs. He is using PW and his own Padloper to sell stuff (he should!). @bernhard seem to do everything in PW with some of his numerous modules. Are forum and ecommerce coming?)) I would say that for the recipes the current collaborative approach is quite good. And it better be ready on Astro or you-name-it SSG than be in development in PW. But! I really love to see passionate people push the limits of possible with the tools of their choice. And would love to see recipes still in github to collaborate on, but wisely imported to PW. Especially if there is any additional value in that like more advanced filtering, interlinking or a form for less technical people to commit recipes. P.S. Frankly, I would go the easy way and stay on whatever tool is already in place. PW is great for some sort of things, but not for all.

Anyone solved this one? I want to bootstrap PW from an external console tool - a task runner.

Thanx for the answer, @BrendonKoz. I guess they want only one of those... I've read about the contradiction you mentioned but do not know the answer myself yet.

I can see how ProcessWire is not only a great platform to use, but also a great learning tool and a springboard to help jump above your head. Many moved to more enterprisy dev and more appy tools. New active members come and bring some fresh thoughts. All is good 😎

I ain't movin' outa here anytime soon!

Thanks! I've heard about it a couple of times. But your mention made me visit the site once again and join. Seeing a couple of interesting topics on Laravel. And a nice one about PW too)) Had to like it)

Good day! I've got one of my sites security checked and this is the stuff (they say) I need to fix: I can see that "Domain" is set to current domain that makes it the same as it was missing, but those who check do not know that. Can I remove Domain attribute from the cookie? It seems like I can't do it via config. As far as I understood reading this, I need to add "__host-" to all the cookie names. I can rename "wire" to "__host-wire" in config, but is there a way to apply it all cookies set by PW automatically? Or maybe I do not need it for anything but session cookie. Can't get my head around it (( Thanks)

Hey, @kuba2! The issue is not PW itself, but rather a 3rd party module - MarkupSEO. It has not been updated for awhile (8 years))) You should: Solve the issues in this module yourself (the author is not around anymore AFAIK). Use a more modern SEO module like this one. Remove all the SEO modules and cope with SEO needs with regular fields and creativity. Anyway, you need to be able to change PHP versions back and forth and see what other modules might need an update.

Hey @kuba2! I've got PW installations running PHP 8.1. So it should be possible. What exactly doesn't work? Show us the errors you got.

One easy way would be to buy ListerPro. Once you have that, you can configure selector for the user list too. The configurations are not available to everyone, so they can't change them back.

I've used dokuwiki for documentation stuff. But now switched to BookStack as @szabesz. We already have met in its github too) Redmine for project management. Zulip to chat with distributed team. For now I have not installed it (use free SAAS for now), but it is possible. HestiaCP for dev and staging environments.

Wire-cli can do that (as a successor to Wireframe). I use it to script PW installation together with RockMigrations. I've written to @ryan about PW cli installation out of the box. Asked him if he would be interested to implement it. He didn't decide to work on this task yet, but he gave me this advice. I think he wouldn't mind if I repost it here:

It might be a great idea to extend this fieldtype with another 2 inputfields: One to be able to store images / files in a another field, selected in inputfields' settings. And to strore some kind of reference to that field. Not quite sure how to get it via API though. This way we can still have images manipulated from the custom fieldtype. Another one is json-based repeater. Something like Textareas or Multiplier. It will cover most of the repeatable needs for me at least. Will Textareas or Multiplier work in custom fieldtype by the way? the did not in Mystique.

I am with you @EyeDentify when you praise PW's simplicity and easiness to start to get around. But PW is also great being a powerful framework. Ryan always managed to balance things perfectly. New cool things like custom page classes never disturbed ones that didn't need them. So I am sure we can easily move forward making PW more suitable for larger projects, multi dev on the same project, more best practice compliance without sacrificing simplicity for the newbies.

Hmm. As far as I understand, none of the proposed goes straight into next major version roadmap. Or am I wrong? @ryan, please direct us. Should we write more proposals? Which direction should we move?

Thanks for this topic @ryan! Great to have a chance to look into the future and maybe even influence it a bit. I agree with @Jonathan Lahijani, but we surely need to expand on that. I can understand his point quite well. ProcessWire taught me be a (somewhat) ambitious developer, that is ready for bigger projects. And some of those grew big enough I started seeing the limitations of PW. And though I think that PW might be not the best choice for some projects (bigger web apps, as Ryan himself pointed out before), it can have its sweet spot in between regular CMS and web frameworks like Laravel. I will try to point some of the ways I see to improve PW to move further into that sweet spot. For now I can throw in this one: A better way to build custom user admin area. Reusing existing admin сomponents, but without the need to hide lots of stuff with permissions and hooks. So we could build something like /user-admin with limited functionality, but still using page edit module.

Hi, @Robin S! Just came to say thanks for this module. It is so cool to have when you need it!

Good day, @adrian! Hope you're just fine! I am using Mail Interceptor option to debug LoginRegisterPro. It sends mails with codes and links. But Mail Interceptor output window doesn't let me copy from it. I can see that all Tracy windows are like that, but this is probably the place, where this behaviour is extremely undesirable. Could we fix this without breaking everything else?

Double Commander is the best. I use it on Windows too. Powerful as... itself!

Great article, @FireWire! I would add that Wireframe is another great way to start working with PW in a more MVC-frameworkish-OOP-kinda-way. So check it out too.