Where do i get premium themes for processwire

[vjy]

Can any body help me where to get  premium themes, i dont see any themes for processwire like wordpress. is this CMS lacking themes like support. if so why?

[Martijn Geerts]

In ProcessWire you're free whatever you want to output and it is not limited to HTML only. As a result you're free to use any template you can find. You could simply drop HTML of a wordpress theme in your templates and use that if you wish. Other resources:

• http://html5up.net/
• http://www.opendesigns.org/website-templates/

I never use themes my self so there are probably way better resources.

[Joss]

It is not lacking themes at all.

ProcessWire has no built in templating system like some of the more limited CMSs

So, as long as you know html and css you can create your own site in your own way, backed by Content Management.

This is what makes it a proper business CMS solution.

Have a play!

[vjy]

are there minimum options like Contact form like(contact form 7 plugin in wordpress), a minimum gallery, slider option and other basic features in it. as in wordpress, or they should also be built with html only because they when we build site client must be able to upload images to slider or gallery and update content using a button system like wordpress plugins have..

how would be build all these features in this CMS like wordpress have built-in plugins and easy to handle plugins..

will nontechnical clients would be able to understand it.. 

Thank you so much for both your replies 

[Martijn Geerts]

Messing with plug-ins is something for a developer not something I would recommend for a non technical client. In ProcessWire it's easy to build the tools so that non technical users can manage their site.

Oké: ProcessWire is al about fishing

[vjy]

am a designer who dosen't  have coding knowledge and know only to integrate designs in code. so would i be able to create all these things easily for a website. please help me out to decide because without any coders help would i be able to build a basic website with these features gallery, forms, sliders, portfolio, blog , videos.

thank you 

[Joss]

The best thing is to do a tutorial just to get you started.

http://processwire.com/docs/tutorials/simple-website-tutorials/

This one will walk you though the basics.

There even simpler ones in the tutorial section, if you need.

When it comes to sliders and so on, you need to be able to grab jquery or Javascript from the web and understand it enough to use it as if you were building a static html site. It is not a big leap from there to use it with ProcessWire.

[Martijn Geerts]

am a designer who dosen't  have coding knowledge

When you're satisfied with that position then ProcessWire is not the right tool for you I Guess. But when you're willing to learn, then jump in we're here to help. ProcessWire has that nasty side effect that non coders become coders after using it for a while.

You don't need much scripting at all to get started. Go ahead and follow the link provided by Joss.

[Joss]

 ProcessWire has that nasty side effect that non coders become coders after using it for a while.

That would be me.

I am not a coder, and used to know next to nothing about it all - and now I am writing tutorials (albeit, simple ones.... )

[vjy]

The best thing is to do a tutorial just to get you started.

http://processwire.com/docs/tutorials/simple-website-tutorials/

This one will walk you though the basics.

There even simpler ones in the tutorial section, if you need.

When it comes to sliders and so on, you need to be able to grab jquery or Javascript from the web and understand it enough to use it as if you were building a static html site. It is not a big leap from there to use it with ProcessWire.

great i will start on it, yes i have knowlege of using jquery and its scripts in website,

[Martijn Geerts]

will nontechnical clients would be able to understand it..

When your clients can answer your questions that you put above an inputfield I would say yes

[Joss]

great i will start on it, yes i have knowlege of using jquery and its scripts in website,

To be honest, you are halfway there, then.

The advantage of working this way is you are not limited to how someone else decided to fit in a jquery plugin. You add it to your templates, work out how you want to control it and go off and make the fields you need. That could be anything from images and captions to even create fields for transition speeds and so on, depending on how versatile the original plugin is, of course.

You just do what is needed for the client to update safely - restrict image sizes, crop to the right size, limit text length and so on.

Yes, it takes more work than Drumlapress, but the result is something that is tailored for YOUR client, not what someone else thinks your client wants.

On the template side, it also means you get to choose how you like to put a site together - choose ANY framework, choose none, do it with notepad, do it with dreamweaver - up to you.

[vjy]

When you're satisfied with that position then ProcessWire is not the right tool for you I Guess. But when you're willing to learn, then jump in we're here to help. ProcessWire has that nasty side effect that non coders become coders after using it for a while.

You don't need much scripting at all to get started. Go ahead and follow the link provided by Joss.

Yes i want to shift myself but due to designing stream. i dont have time, as you are telling, i think this is great way of learning and working a platform which would be awesome. i have worked with wordpress custom design integration for almost 5 years and can't do anything without coders help if i want a unknown customized feature in the plugin. 

i wanted to learn it but was not able to , would like to become a framework expert without anyones help, am planning to do themes in processwire and sell, would you think it would be a good start to learn and go with this framework. does it worth it like wordpress themes.

I would be able to spend time in learning both templating and coding sections since this is new so i could mug up time for learning coding too..

i have knowlege in C, i know what is what , variables, functions how it works.. 

what do you think.

[Joss]

Here is what you need for basics (either know it, or go learn it)

You need to know how to echo something in php

It is worth learning what a foreach loop is and how to do one

You need to understand what an array is

You need to know good practices in putting html and css together (that is not a PW thing really...)

er ...

That is probably most of what you need to understand to get you started.

By the way, you will see on my tutorial that I recommend you install the BLANK profile. THe other profiles will get you started, but if you are trying to learn, sometime a blank sheet of paper is better.

[diogo]

The clients can be non-technical to use PW, but you have to do some work. There are plugins for PW but the majority of them are not for frontend features. For this all you have to understand is how you can organize things in the PW backend, and how to get those things in your html.

Anyway, to be clear I will give you the gallery example:

To create a gallery you can have many approaches to collect the images.

1. You can create a parent page called "gallery" and allow for children pages with a single image field on each and any other fields that you need to have info on each image.

2. You can create a page called "gallery" (for example) dedicated only to the gallery where you have a multiple images field that will hold all the images with their descriptions.

3. You can create a multiple images field (or many) along with others fields in that template and use the to make the gallery (or galleries)

It's all about flexibility and making your own decisions. search for gallery here in the forums and you will find multiple approaches.

Second part is to choose a javascript gallery. There are loads of them, and all you have to do is go to their documentation to know what kind of HTML they expect you to create.

Third part is to create that HTML and put the images dynamically to it in your template file. For example, if the JS gallery plugin asks for a list of images in the format "<ul><li><img/></li><li><img/></li><li><img/></li><li><img/></li></ul>":

1. ( where the ("/gallery/") page holds a holds a single image field "image" )

<ul>
<? foreach($pages-get("/gallery/")->children() as $imagePage): ?>
    <li><img src="<?=$imagePage->image->url?>" description="<?=$imagePage->image->description?>"/></li>
<? endforeach ?>
</ul>

2. ( where the ("/gallery/") page holds a multiple images field "images" )

<ul>
<? foreach($pages-get("/gallery/")->images as $image): ?>
    <li><img src="<?=$image->url?>" description="<?=$image->description?>"/></li>
<? endforeach ?>
</ul>

3. ( where the page being viewed holds a multiple images field "images" )

<ul>
<? foreach($page->images as $image): ?>
    <li><img src="<?=$image->url?>" description="<?=$image->description?>"/></li>
<? endforeach ?>
</ul>

 

Edit: while I was writing you had already a very long conversation. I'm still going to submit this

[diogo]

i have knowlege in C, i know what is what , variables, functions how it works.. 

PW will be easy for you.

[Joss]

Edit: while I was writing you had already a very long conversation. I'm still going to submit this

There is a lesson to be learned there, my friend.... 

I did do a basic gallery tutorial too:

http://processwire.com/docs/tutorials/galleries-short-and-long/page2

I must get round to do the followup which would include using a jquery plugin

[Martijn Geerts]

Ahhh, almost forgot: Welcome to ProcessWire and the forum members !

[Joss]

Ah, yes ...  good point Martijn.

Sorry, we all get a bit enthusiastic in here sometimes and forget the niceties.

Welcome!

[vjy]

Thank you so much my friends martijn,  joss and diago

[diogo]

diago

Funny, that word doesn't sound strange to me...

[vjy]

i am totally satisfied about your replies.. one final question before putting my step in process wire..

my goal is to create full functional processwire themes to sell to clients.. are people really interested something in our Processwire other than wordpress.. in the world. would it be a success point for me to get clients.. 

does my goal actually make any sense to you guys. i need your suggestions / advice / opinions. 

i want to make my career in this CMS since wordpress has most competition grabbed by millions.

Funny, that word doesn't sound strange to me...

sorry oops diogo 

[diogo]

my goal is to create full functional processwire themes to sell to clients.. are people really interested something in our Processwire other than wordpress.. in the world. would it be a success point for me to get clients.. 

Difficult to answer to this since for now you can't even compare the popularity of one and other: PW is growing at a fast pace, but most of this is due to developers, it's still to soon to tell if PW will ever be a known CMS outside of this circle,

[Martijn Geerts]

Money is a bad motivator as it only works as for a limited amount of time. Eagerness and willingness is way stronger and can keep you going like a good ol diesel. When you want to succeed your goal you have to do more over here then in the other camp I guess.

But in the end you'll become a real fisher and you're be able to catch sharks in any ocean.

[vjy]

Money is a bad motivator as it only works as motivator for a limited time. Eagerness and human will is way stronger and can keep you going like a good ol diesel. When you want to succeed with your goal you have to do more here then in the other camp.

But in the end you'll become a real fisher and you're be able to catch sharks in any ocean.

I totally agree with your opinion and respect it.