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I quote myself here (source😞 Probably the best way to start is: Read the docs: https://processwire.com/docs/ Get familiar with the selectors: https://processwire.com/docs/selectors/ Try the tutorials: https://processwire.com/docs/tutorials/ Search the forums for common questions with google like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aprocesswire.com%2Ftalk+how+to+resize+images And give yourself a weekend or two The moment you installed and broke your 10-20th installation of ProcessWire you will feel at home. And you should break* as many installations as possible to learn the foundation of pages, templates, fields, and go from there. Use DDEV (all platforms) or Laragon (Windows) for an easy start. Best way to start with ProcessWire locally. Install the Skyscraper profile and take it apart - or try another site profile. That way you will learn how to use profiles and can build a routine to install ProcessWire. Maybe even creating a few instances with different profiles could help. * have fun with the code, bend and twist every single part of everything to understand. ProcessWire will give you headstart, great UI to enter content, manage the site and modules, takes care of routing, permissions, and user management. ProcessWire is probably the easiest way to start learning a bit about PHP. if/else/foreach/echo is everything you need to know to start.

For my first steps with PW, I found this Youtube playlist by Henning Heyne. He builds step by step a simple blog, but by doing that, you get to grasp some concepts of PW that maybe a bit not intuitive but prove afterward to be extremely powerful (like a simple post category being a page in itself). Hope that will help.

Awesome that it works. It was meant more for testing if all image functions take so much time. This way we know there is something weird happening with width() - yet I am not sure what it could be right now.

Some first steps: Have you gotten a working PW instance installed and running in a dev environment? Once that's done, install Ryan's "Skyscrapers" site profile and study that. Maybe add some features or use it to setup an instance for a personal project. And of course, there's PW community which is very helpful.

Hi, And thx for a quick reply. I've manage to accomplish what I wanted with following code: <?php namespace ProcessWire; if( $pagegrid->isBackend() ) { // render things only for the backend $content = ""; $content .= $pagegrid->styles($page); } else { // render things only for the frontend $content = ""; } $content .= "Example content"; if( $pagegrid->isBackend() ) { // render things only for the backend $content .= $pagegrid->scripts($page); echo $content; die; } Thank @jploch for pointing me to right direction :)

I think ProcessWire's opinions are very worth it. The ones that I feel are right at hand are the selector API and the concepts associated with a Page. This allows you to reduce the amount of decisions you have to take and later execute, letting you go straight into making that real estate/portfolio/etc you want to build. I'd say that with very little backend experience you can build something nice and fast in ProcessWire, with a very advanced and minimalistic and powerful admin backend out of the box. I'd encourage you to give it a try, at least a couple days of work. Give ddev a try to setup your development environment. If you find yourself at trouble don't hesitate to write back, it's an awesome community!

Ok, if anyone wants to explore this, and has RockMigrations installed, here's a slightly improved version of the above, packaged as a Tweak. QuickWebAuthnLogin.php

I really like the idea with a tweaks pluggable collection. But I would prefer its usage was separated from the RockMigration module, so one could use tweaks without the more developer-centric migration tool. I thought that @bernhardstarted a dedicated module for that, but not sure if it is still alive.

Hi, I know frontend development and have previously created static sites, which are hosted for free on Cloudflare Pages. I've been learning PHP because I want to do a little more than just static sites, but I do not have experience in the backend - e.g. hosting and databases. I'm trying to work out my next steps now that I know some php - what is the time needed to learn to use Processwire to a decent standard (i.e. more than just templating out a blog)? What would be the advantage be in learning Processwire over something like Laravel? Many thanks for any help or advice you're able to give.

Thanks, That actually works, but I think it might be for the wrong reason. There can't actually be any slowdowns because of permissions, I suppose? It has to be something else. Not sure what exactly yet, but I'll see if i can find out.

@ColtNikolaus No need to ask for permission, doing so adds noise to the forum, creates work for other people, and delays possible answers. What is your actual question?

Thank you so much for the link, can I ask a question.

Hello @Neue Rituale, I’m exploring your module possibilities. It seems very useful. I can’t figure out something though. I’m sure it’s very simple. Let say I have a ptn field in my homepage. I defined a template (named "section") to be used with this ptn field as an element. In the php template file of this section, how can I display the section title ? If I write $page->title, I get "Home" (so the title of the page where the ptn field lives), instead of the section title itself. Said in another way, the $page variable is not scoped to the element template. It’s always scoped to the page template. So how can I catch the field value of the element templates? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks PS: for custom CSS, it seems that, because of the shadow DOM, the CSS custom properties like --bg-color scooped in the root of the page are not defined when used in the shadow DOM.

All we need now is a community library of tweaks and macros. Perhaps it could be called "The Rock Pool" :)

@Jonathan Lahijani I'm not surprised, but still shocked. I have heard of people not adopting Gutenberg but couldn't tell if it was just a preference to not adopt. This is some critical stuff. The amount of CSS that WP stores in the database has always been problematic. I was asked to make some adjustments on a site, so logically I went to the theme CSS, nope. Then went to the page builder plugin because you can bump around a lot of values for CSS properties in different units- struck out again. Then went to the in-admin theme editor where I found a bunch of styles in a text box, most of them had '!important' to overcome the styles in the other two places. The fact that this got even worse, is feature incomplete, breaking, and seemingly underengineered is just wow. Everyone get in the time machine... <!--include /text/header.html--> <!--getenv HTTP_USER_AGENT--> <!--ifsubstr $exec_result Mozilla--> Hey, you are using Netscape!<p> <!--endif--> <!--sql database select * from table where user='$username'--> <!--ifless $numentries 1--> Sorry, that record does not exist<p> <!--endif exit--> Welcome <!--$user-->!<p> You have <!--$index:0--> credits left in your account.<p> <!--include /text/footer.html--> That's PHP 1.0 WordPress has adopted the syntax of PHP 1.0 I, for one, am truly inspired.

Yes, that's right. I use maybe 5 or so features from AoS and figured porting those over would be a good way to learn both how AoS does it, and how your tweaks work. I'll add as PRs, with attribution to tpr, as I go. Updated to add: First four tweaks from AoS done and in as a pull request. Show extra actions by default. Show template name as a link to the template edit page. "Bypass trash" adds the Delete button to the page action list and also allows permanent deletion from the delete tab when editing pages. Prev/Next page edit links.

Great! Are you porting a feature from AOS to RM Tweaks? 🙂

Ah, this is user error - ignore my post above. :)

Hi @bernhard I just tried adding the following tweak to the tweaks/ directory, and am getting an error from RockMigrations when the admin reloads. If I remove my attempted tweak, everything works again. I think this is in RM, rather than the tweak file. Thanks for the module, BTW. PageListShowExtras.php

@FireWire Pssh. All these issues you speak of are the "old" WordPress from the late 2000s and early 2010s. You are not using the fantastically re-envisioned NEW WordPress which totally solves all these problems by bringing in React to build Gutenberg out of the carcass of classic WP. It is NOT a s***-show. Here, just read this new glowing review: https://dbushell.com/2024/05/07/modern-wordpress-themes-yikes/ HN Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40296534

Totally untested but how does this perform in your setup? $image->size(400,0)->url

Hey there, I've got a site with a weird performance issue. Requesting ~20 pages and displaying them with $image->width(400)->url can take up to 2-3 seconds. The resized images are already generated. If I replace that line with $image->url the request is almost instantaneous, as it should be. So it seems like the width() function is struggling for whatever reason. Could it be something with permissions on the files under /assets/files that is causing this? An example of the file with ls -lah looks like this: -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 510K May 8 10:32 20_10_xxx_web.800x0.png The original (is fast) looks like this -rwxrwx--- 1 joe www-data 1.3M Mar 16 16:36 20_10_xxx_web.png* I should probably restrict the permission a bit, but first I'm looking to understand this slow down.

I'm using git revert + rockshell db:restore for that 🙂 But on large dbs a snapshot might be faster, so I keep that in mind, thx!

What @dotneticsaid. And when trying out things. Snapshot - add fields/templates/dummy pages etc. Like it -> keep it. Don't like it -> rollback to last snapshot.

Why don't you look into the code of those modules or ask the module authors how they did it?