Joss Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I am not a graphic designer, but if I was briefing for a design to support a brand identity, I would stay away from playing with the letters or the name. Process Wire, as a phrase, works very well both in a branding sense and in a descriptive sense. Moving to PW is a useful chatting short-cut, but no longer delivers the brand phrase or, indeed any brand values. So, in that case, the brief would be to look for an easily repeatable (and easily modifiable*) logo/design that can be used in conjunction with the words Process Wire, rather than trying to replace them. A good solid logo without letters has a very long life span while remaining adaptable to changing trends and, indeed, the success of the brand. *Note: it should be modifiable in that it can work with different colours and in different contexts, while retaining a shape that is set in stone. This makes is multi-use from the outset which saves a lot of heart ache later. JS 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I don't think there's any intention of replacing the logo with PW, but we just need an alternate square logo for the situations when a long horizontal logo doesn't fit (like the wiki). I agree that a mark (something other than PW) that can go with the logotype, or go by itself, would be great. But a branding challenge too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joss Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Haha - you have a community of imaginative souls here .... I am sure someone will have a moment of brilliance! (though it might require drying out after Christmas celebrations first....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kiss Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 which will change in 2-3 years. right… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joss Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Hey Ryan, How about getting PW listed on http://www.opensourcecms.com/developers/register.php ? Then we can all run off and say how nice it is! Joss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Joss, that's a long story... PW was already there and hit the first place very quickly, then suddenly it went to last in only a few minutes. You can read about it here http://processwire.c...ages/#entry5671 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joss Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Joss, that's a long story... PW was already there and hit the first place very quickly, then suddenly it went to last in only a few minutes. You can read the about it here http://processwire.c...ages/#entry5671 Okay, scrub that! Plenty of other places that get read by developers ... I had heard of voting scams on other sites before, but hadn't realised that it extended there too. It is the unreliable nature of the internet, sadly. Do devs ever read actual paper magazines these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kiss Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Oh darn, I really hoped there will be another opensourcecms storm, it's always so much fun to bash those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The opensourcecms.com folks are good people. But I'm not sure they fully understand the extent to which those votes are manipulated. I'm still hopeful they will fix this someday, by at least tying it to some kind of recognized account system (even Facebook). But they will have to throw out the votes they've collected in the past, as they are largely noise. Once they do correct this system and make it honest, we will gladly have ProcessWire there, and I know other CMS projects that will follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typ9 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Just searched for processwire on GooglePlus - and found this interview: http://www.cmscritic.com/interview-with-ryan-cramer-of-processwire/ ... no time yet to read it, though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeisa Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Nice on Georgson, totally forget to update that. Here is little mention about PW also: http://doteduguru.com/id8671-really-why-django-and-rails-cms-are-so-rare.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joss Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Good interview Ryan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typ9 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Just managed to read it. Yeah, good interview, Ryan. Seems like it won't be the last one! (BTW: which is the third one of the Big3 you mentioned? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewSchenker Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Just managed to read it. Yeah, good interview, Ryan. Seems like it won't be the last one! (BTW: which is the third one of the Big3 you mentioned? ) I assume Ryan was referring to WordPress, Drupal, and Joomla. Thanks, Matthew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joss Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I thought it was Mambo, phpNuke and News Publisher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogo Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Good interview Ryan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Thanks guys. I'm someone that likes to think a lot before I respond to questions, and didn't have time to do that here (it was a Skype interview rather than by email or something). But I'm happy with how it worked out. And perhaps the "live" nature makes for a more interesting interview. Very appreciative to Mike for inviting me to do this. I'm really liking the huge ProcessWire logo at cmscritic.com too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joss Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Trust me - off the cuff interviews, even with corporate subjects, are always the best. Rehearsed interviews, even on paper, come across as contrived. We used to have a rule of thumb that it was not in the interest of most radio stations, magazines, business publications to make you look bad. They end up looking weak and poisonous, and it undermines their role which is to inform their listeners/readers. You have to be a little careful of that principle on the web because their are a lot of blog owners out there who have not had formal journalism training or worked in mainstream media, and think that it is all about them and not the interviewee. But with people like Mke at CMS Critic, he seems to have got his head round that one and it was a well laid out interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjegolders Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Good interview Ryan. Confident in your product, I like that. And so you should be 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeisa Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 http://www.tyssendesign.com.au/articles/cms/cms-review-processwire/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joss Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Interesting review, and I have sympathy with his confusion about pages - which is why I wrote my tongue in cheek post about pages ages ago. However, he has missed the point that pages are a versatile tool and not just lump of text. He also seems to have misunderstood about the relationship between the page list and the site and that you are not limited to the page list structure if you dont want to be. I think he sees it as something that is great for a handful of pages and does not realise that it can be used for vast, resource driven sites and solutions. But that is probably not the reviewers fault, but maybe something that we can all sell better from this end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogo Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I honestly don't understand the confusion with pages. When everything are pages, that's really all you have to know. Couldn't be any simpler... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Well I think most people think page == what you see instead of page == container 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soma Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 page == container == sheet == pixel == many pixels == anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogo Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 == json == txt == xml == png == ttf == js == css == anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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