Media Manager Archive

[kongondo]

Documentation (Work in Progress!)

http://mediamanager.kongondo.com/

 

Still working on this but at least the basics to get you up and running are covered

1. Getting started
2. Adding media to Media Manager fields in ProcessWire pages

Currently, site might not work properly on all devices :

[Loges]

Do you mean in the Inputfield (what you see when editing a ProcessWire page with a Media Manager field) or in the Media Library itself? I ask because there are no tabs in the former. The settings for fields only affect individual fields and are not universally applied to the Media Library (the manager itself). But there was a bug in the former in the text being displayed in the Inputfield and I fixed that in MM version 002.

I grappled with this (the first part of your statement) during development and settled for highlighting the title with a view to revisiting in the future. Will have a look again. As for the Edit and Crop buttons, I don't understand what you mean. Please clarify.

Am not sure I follow. Are you talking about the Media Library or a Media Manager field - Inputfield?

Media Manager displays a notice (success or failure notices) when you select media and click on 'Insert Media'. Are you not seeing this in your tests? As for closing the modal window, the idea is that one may want to insert more media from other Media Library pages not currently in view. Closing the window would mean they have to open the modal again in order to insert the other media. I have explained this in the (upcoming) documentation so as not to confuse users.

Hi Kongondo, apologies for delayed reply...

Fore reference I have MM v0.0.2 and PW dev 3.0.12.

1. Re inputfield - yes I've created a new field and applied to page (only ticked Image when creating the field).  When I then go to edit a page with this field, it says "Allowed Media Types: Image".  If i click Add Media in that field the modal pops up and I see tabs at the top for All, Audio, Document, Image, Video, Upload.  The field type is "Media Manager" - have I used the wrong field type?

2. Yes I don't know the answer for the highlighting - it's probably just something you get used to.  Same with the Edit and Crop buttons - on a dark image you just can't see them unless you hover on the large image on the right hand side.  Again, probably just something that can be trained into users, I'm being picky .

3. My ideal workflow for users when editing a page is, open media library from the page field to select an image to insert.  There would be only the images displayed (no All, Audio, Document etc).  To upload a file from that window they could just drag n drop a file to that modal window and it would get added to the image list.  This might be a moot point if I've set up wrong re point 1 above.

4. Yeah I'm seeing the success notifications.  I just can't think of a time when a user would need to do more than one action in that modal window.  If they want to insert multiple images they'd just highlight them all then click Insert (which is what happens now).  If they've done that then they don't need the modal window open any more.  I admit this may not be the workflow for everyone but in the instances I can think of for my users, 95% of the time having the window close on successful insert would be preferable.  I take your point about having multiple pages to scroll through changing this.  I suppose the vast majority of my use cases are inserting only one image per field (ie it's an image field rather than a carousel).  Maybe there could be an "Insert & Close" button in addition to the "Insert Media" button?  Depends whether you think that makes it more cluttered/confusing vs benefit.

[kongondo]

@Loges

#1: I now get it. When you click the link 'Add Media' the modal it opens is essentially the Media Library part of Media Manager, i.e. ProcessMediaManager, but styled slightly differently from what you see when you directly access the Media Library from the ProcessWire admin menu. I am working on a way to only show navigation/tab items that are relevant to the current field you are inserting to. So, in your case, if you only had images, the only tabs you should see are 'Images' and 'Upload'. If you had allowed, say documents and video, then, you would only see 'Documents Video Upload'. You need a media tab since you would need a way to navigate back to your Media Library  if you went to 'Upload' tab.

#2. Highlighting of the active media (i.e. the media being previewed) has been sorted in MM v003. Did you get my email notification? As for highlighting the crop, edit, icons, that should be sorted with some minimal training. They will always be on the right hand side.

#3 Sort of covered in #1?

#4 I'll look into insert and close

[Loges]

Yes I got your email re v3, thanks for that.  Will install tomorrow and have a play around.

Sounds great and thanks for taking it all on board.

[kongondo]

Media Manager version 004  (released (01/08/2016))

Happy to announce the latest release of Media Manager.

Changelog

1. FieldtypeMediaManager/InputfieldMediaManager: Configurable setting to insert media in inputfield and close modal. Set in the Details tab of your FieldtypeMediaManager field
2. Fixed bug where non-allowed media types (for those limiting media types available to InputfieldMediaManager) would still show up in the results in the selection modal. 
3. Fixed bug where the menu item 'All' would not appear in the InptufieldMediaManager media selection modal even if  allowed media types was limited to at least 2 types
4. By popular demand, a CKEditor image plugin! mmimage (cloned and adapted from pwimage  thanks @ryan) lets you insert images in your Media Manager Image Library directly into the rich text editor. See a video demo + instructions here

 

@TODO:

• Multi-tagging of media
• Documentation (thanks for being patient with me guys...)

 

[Tyssen]

Does MediaManager work in repeating fields and if not, is that on the roadmap?

[kongondo]

On 03/08/2016 at 2:59 AM, Tyssen said:

Does MediaManager work in repeating fields and if not, is that on the roadmap?

Until your question, it wasn't ....I have made some minor changes to version 005 which now enables this. I'll try and commit this today, if not, then over the weekend. 

Thanks for your interest in Media Manager...

[gmclelland]

I haven't tried it yet, but this module looks great!

I'm guessing the Media files are stored using PW pages?  Is there any way to add more fields to those PW pages?  For example, I might want to use a text field to store where I got the image from.

I'm also curious how the File Usage works?

1. Does it just count and list the pages where the media file is used in a media field.
2. Does it also take into consideration files that have been inserted into text areas?
3. Does it include pages with text areas that link to the files?

[kongondo]

Media Manager version 005  (released (07/08/2016))

Happy to announce the latest release of Media Manager.

Changelog

1. Media Manager in Repeaters: Media Manager (Fieldtype- and InputfieldMediaManager) can now be used in Repeaters with full access to your Media Library.  Demo video and instructions are here.

[kongondo]

On 05/08/2016 at 10:00 PM, gmclelland said:

I'm guessing the Media files are stored using PW pages?  Is there any way to add more fields to those PW pages?  For example, I might want to use a text field to store where I got the image from.

I'm also curious how the File Usage works?

1. Does it just count and list the pages where the media file is used in a media field.
2. Does it also take into consideration files that have been inserted into text areas?
3. Does it include pages with text areas that link to the files?

 

Storage:

Stored in page: Yes. Please see the OP, about half-way down

Custom fields: Yes if you add them directly to the templates but you will not be able to edit those custom fields using the MM interface. In addition, MM pages are hidden in the admin so editing your custom fields will not be ideal (or accessible to normal users). Alternatively, you can use images/files native description and tag fields. These are currently editable directly in your Media Library.

File Usage:

1. It counts the actual usage in FieldtyeMediaManager field in the DB
2. No
3. No

[kongondo]

Hi all,

I'm going to be away for the next couple of weeks (4-5 weeks possibly) with little if any access to the internet. I will deal with any queries on my return.

Thanks

[Jonathan Claeys]

I'm having a big issue with the module. When I added an image to my page and I try to get the URL of it, it just returns "null". I've been searching, trying for hours now. 

[cstevensjr]

2 hours ago, Jonathan Claeys said:

I'm having a big issue with the module. When I added an image to my page and I try to get the URL of it, it just returns "null". I've been searching, trying for hours now. 

What ProcessWire version are you using with this module and it would greatly help if you would go into more detail about your problem?

[Jonathan Claeys]

1 hour ago, cstevensjr said:

What ProcessWire version are you using with this module and it would greatly help if you would go into more detail about your problem?

I'm using version 2.8 of Processwire and I added media to my page. Wich works fine. I do a var_dump of my media and I get back an object with 1 image, wich is also correct. The problem is that the object doesn't include a url. Normally you do: $image->url or $image->size(x, y)->url but this doesn't work on the media I added by the module. And when I just look to the examples on the media manager documentation it should work like that. Or am I overlooking something?

[Robin S]

@Jonathan Claeys Please provide an example of the code you are using to try and get your media image URL.

I haven't used Media Manager, but looking at the documentation for outputting to the front-end there are a couple of things to be aware of:

1. A Media Manager field returns an array (specifically a 'MediaManagerArray') so you need to treat it as such in your template even if it contains only a single media item. The docs suggest looping over it, but if a MediaManagerArray is also a WireArray (the docs aren't specific about that) then you could use other API methods to get items such as first() or get($key).

2. The media itself (an image in your case) is contained in the media property of an individual MediaManager object. So you need to use methods like url or size() on the media property and not on the MediaManager object.

Assuming that a MediaManagerArray is a WireArray and that your Media Manager field is called my_media_field:

$media_manager_array = $page->my_media_field;
$media_manager_object = $media_manager_array->first();
$image_object = $media_manager_object->media;
$url = $image_object->url;
echo "<img src='$url'>";

This is just to give you the idea, and is more verbose than necessary.

[Jonathan Claeys]

8 hours ago, Robin S said:

@Jonathan Claeys Please provide an example of the code you are using to try and get your media image URL.

I haven't used Media Manager, but looking at the documentation for outputting to the front-end there are a couple of things to be aware of:

1. A Media Manager field returns an array (specifically a 'MediaManagerArray') so you need to treat it as such in your template even if it contains only a single media item. The docs suggest looping over it, but if a MediaManagerArray is also a WireArray (the docs aren't specific about that) then you could use other API methods to get items such as first() or get($key).

2. The media itself (an image in your case) is contained in the media property of an individual MediaManager object. So you need to use methods like url or size() on the media property and not on the MediaManager object.

Assuming that a MediaManagerArray is a WireArray and that your Media Manager field is called my_media_field:

$media_manager_array = $page->my_media_field;
$media_manager_object = $media_manager_array->first();
$image_object = $media_manager_object->media;
$url = $image_object->url;
echo "<img src='$url'>";

This is just to give you the idea, and is more verbose than necessary.

Thanks alot,

I just saw my problem. I didn't see you had to call the method ->media also after you got your image field already.  That solved the problem. 

[kongondo]

I am now back and slowly catching up with issues. Thanks for your patience.

 

Thanks @Robin S for helping out above. @Jonathan Claeys, many thanks for using Media Manager. Please let me know if you need further clarification.

I can confirm that a MediaManagerArray is a WireArray. I have updated the docs to reflect this.

[kongondo]

This post is in response to some queries I received about Media Manager. I will be improving the documentation in the next couple of weeks.

1. Edit media details 

2. Automatically publishing media on upload

[kongondo]

Media Manager version 006  (released 21/09/2016)

Happy to announce the latest release of Media Manager.

Changelog

1. mmlink: A CKEditor link plugin (cloned and adapted from pwlink  thanks @ryan) lets you insert links to the media in your Media Manager Library directly into the Rich Text Editor (RTE). (Instructions on how to setup are similar to those of mmimage as shown in this video. Where it says MMImage/mmimage please replace with MMLink/mmlink respectively, thanks). The plugin is in the folder MediaManager/plugins/mmlink. Please note that currently it is not possible to edit a link's attributes (e.g. rel, target and title). However, a title is auto-inserted in the link (the respective media's title.

Please download latest release of the module from the link in your purchase confirmation email. Let me know if you encounter any issues, thanks.

@TODO:

• Multi-tagging of media
• Documentation (thanks for being patient with me guys...)

[spacemonkey95]

I have just purchased and installed Media Manager and I have an immediate couple of questions which will determine whether it's actually useful enough for my requirements:

What is the purpose of the image tags? Will it be (or is it already) possible to filter images by a specific tag?

 

I would like to be able to add a whole bunch of images and tag them as 'icons', so that I can filter by that specific tag to see those images only.

If this is not possible, perhaps there's a way to achieve the same result which I'm missing. Please could you help? Thanks.

[kongondo]

Hi @spacemonkey95. Thanks for the purchase.

Media Tags: The purpose of 'media tags'...is the same purpose as in ProcessWire (please note: all media can be tagged; not just images); namely, to group related media (images, documents, video or audio) to fulfil any number of functions - easier organisation, finding related things, etc. 

Filtering media by tags: Yes, it is already possible to filter images (or any other media) by tags both in the API and in your Media Manager Library (the Process Module). Please see the gif below.

What is pending is the ability to tag multiple media in one go. Currently, one can only tag one media at a time as shown in my post above. This can be tedious, hence the need for multi-tagging capability. I have started work on this new feature but it won't be ready this week but soon. It is also not possible, currently, to sort media by tags (i.e. the display of media in the Media Library - currently sorted by title). I am also working on implementing this.

Hope I've answered your questions.

Filtering media by tags

Edited September 27, 2016 by kongondo
clarity...

[Orkun]

Hi @kongondo

Our Agency has purchased your Media Manager which is great Module. But I encountered a few Bugs/Problems. 

On localhost (ProDraft, Multilanguage Fields respectively the multilange installation profie of processwire):

1. Can't upload Videos

2. Cant change or edit Tags field (it always stays empty no matter what i do).

3. The variations problems is also active here

General Problems on Server (Uses Different Hooks, ProDraft, Multilanguage Fields etc...):

1. Cant change or edit Description field (sometimes it works once).

2. Cant change or edit Tags field (it always stays empty no matter what i do).

3. Variations functionality(cropping, changing dimensions etc...) doesnt work (It just makes a exact copy with the same dimensions and adds it to the file/image field of the  page)

When I upload the image

 

When I use the variations functionality

 

Don't know if this is usefull for debugging (All Hooks):

	$this->addHookBefore('ProcessHome::execute', $this, 'rootPage');
	$this->addHookAfter("Page::editable", $this, 'setEditAccess');
	$this->addHookAfter("Page::addable", $this, 'setAddAccess');
	$this->addHookAfter("ProcessPageLister::getSelector", $this, 'setListerAccess');
	$this->addHookAfter('ProcessPageList::execute', $this, 'hidePages');
	$this->addHookBefore('ProcessPageAdd::executeTemplate', $this, 'redirectParent');
	$this->addHookAfter('ProcessPageListRender::getPageLabel', $this, 'addTemplateLabel');
	$this->addHookAfter('ProcessPageAdd::buildForm', $this, 'addFields');
	$this->addHookAfter('ProcessPageAdd::buildForm', $this, 'collapseName');
	$this->addHookAfter('ProcessPageEdit::buildForm', $this, 'addLangViewTabs');
	$this->addHookAfter('ProcessPageEdit::getTabs', $this, 'removeDefaultViewTab');
	$this->addHookAfter('InputfieldForm::render', $this, 'renderForm');
	$this->addHookAfter('ProcessPageAdd::execute', $this, 'addScript');
    $this->addHookBefore('WireMail::send', $this, 'fixOutlookMail');
    $this->addHookAfter('Pages::save', $this, 'hookSave');
    $this->addHookAfter('Pages::clone', $this, 'hookClone');

When I deactivate all Hooks the Problems are still there.

 

PS: I deactivated the draft functionality for the media manager templates.

[Orkun]

Saving Variatons in different Dimension works... I didn't recoginzed the radios.... My bad  But when I save a variation with the same dimensions it still looses the original.

PS: But the cropping functionaliy also doesn't work. It just copy the original one and looses the original afterwards.

[kongondo]

Hi @Nukro,

Thanks for the purchase. Apologies for the 'rough start'

1. Uploading Videos:

• Have you specified .mp4 as an allowed extension? If not, you need to do that under Upload, then Settings Tab, scroll down to Settings: Video > Valid video file extensions
• What error is returned in the console (in response to the ajax request)?
• It could be an allowed file size issue. The error returned by the server will shed light on this

2. Editing Tags:

• Did you enable tags for the 4 media templates? Please have a look at the install instructions here, thanks. I have tried and have so far been unable to programmatically enable tags on install

3. Variations

• Hmm, that's quite a number of issues. 
• Cropping: are you using Save as Copy?
• Are you developing locally or could I get some temporary access to the site to have a look around?

PW version? Currently we don't officially support version 3 until there is an official release (which is soon!)

Edit:

How are you uploading images/media? In your screenshot above I see you are directly editing an image...

 

Edited September 29, 2016 by kongondo
additional info

[Orkun]

21 minutes ago, kongondo said:

Hi @Nukro,

Thanks for the purchase. Apologies for the 'rough start'

1. Uploading Videos:

• Have you specified .mp4 as an allowed extension? If not, you need to do that under Upload, then Settings Tab, scroll down to Settings: Video > Valid video file extensions
• What error is returned in the console (in response to the ajax request)?
• It could be an allowed file size issue. The error returned by the server will shed light on this

2. Editing Tags:

• Did you enable tags for the 4 media templates? Please have a look at the install instructions here, thanks. I have tried and have so far been unable to programmatically enable tags on install

3. Variations

• Hmm, that's quite a number of issues. 
• Cropping: are you using Save as Copy?
• Are you developing locally or could I get some temporary access to the site to have a look around?

PW version? Currently we don't officially support version 3 until there is an official release (which is soon!)

Edit:

How are you uploading images/media? In your screenshot above I see you are directly editing an image...

 

Thanks for you quick Answer @kongondo

I'm testing the media manager at the moment on localhost with a blank processwire install

1. Uploading Videos:

.mp4 is specified as an allowed extension. I looked into the console and I am getting this error from the ajax call:

2. Editing Tags

Thanks. I enabled now the tags for the media manager fields. It works now.

 

3. Variations

For cropping I am using 'save as copy'. It just makes a exact copy of the origin image and afterwards it looses the original one. The same happens when I save(save as copy) the image with the original dimensions.

 

4. Uploading Images/Videos

I'am uploading all the files from the upload tab in the media manager module (jqueryfileupload).