clsource Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 The wikipedia article of processwire is down! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProcessWire only available as a draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ProcessWire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxndre Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 wiki.processwire.com is also down. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjen Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Question is: how to get it published again? I've just created an account, but can't find the request for publication button. There seems to be a way, but I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Ryan has closed it when changing the server, because it wasn't maintained a long time and also has filled up 3+GB (?!?) on the old server. There must be his post somewhere in the forums: https://processwire.com/talk/topic/13373-switching-hosts-may-25-at-noon-est/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rockett Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The Wikipedia log shows that the page was previously deleted and restored, but there is no deletion log for this disappearance. Quote 14:08, 1 October 2016 David Gerard (talk | contribs) restored page ProcessWire (38 revisions restored: restoring PROD on request) 07:56, 16 August 2016 David Gerard (talk | contribs) deleted page ProcessWire (Expired PROD, concern was: Searches are finding only PR and trivial links, nothing at all summarizes to actual substance.) So the only thing I can think of (and I don't know how Wikipedia works) is that the page was unpublished for editing, to be re-published at a later stage. To me, that doesn't make too much sense unless, perhaps, multiple members of the community are working on the page (however, there is no Talk page). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin S Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Looks like the page was deleted on 16 August for reasons of "Searches are finding only PR and trivial links, nothing at all summarizes to actual substance." Which is bizarre as a Google search for ProcessWire would obviously turn up a large number of results. Then the page was restored (by the same user who deleted it) on 1 October without explanation as to why, but only restored to Draft status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I emailed with the guy that deleted it last month. I didn't get a clear answer about what the problem was, but there were a couple of old links in there that went to 404s, so I think that was part of it. It also sounds like some people helping to manage content at Wikipedia don't think that those involved in a project should be the same ones to maintain the Wikipedia page on it. I think that makes sense in a lot of cases (like for commercial projects especially), but doesn't make much sense in our case. I am aware that nearly all the other CMS projects (open source and commercial) are maintaining their own Wikipedia pages. If someone else would be interested in helping to maintain the Wikipedia page I think that would be good, so that it's clear it's a community and not just some dude in his basement trying to write a Wikipedia page for something that nobody knows about. I did make a lot of edits and removed old links, updated information, etc., but honestly can't figure out how to publish it. So it remains a draft for now. I think we may need someone that knows Wikipedia better to figure this out. But I would like to go ahead and re-publish our Wikipedia page. But how? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 All sorted - I published it which actually requires: More > Move https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProcessWire 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrura Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 looks like it is back up, can't see any issues from here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProcessWire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Uuh, I read wiki, and thought it was the old wiki tutorial. But it was wikipedia. My fault, sorry for any confusion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szabesz Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 8 hours ago, horst said: Uuh, I read wiki, and thought it was the old wiki tutorial. But it was wikipedia. My fault, sorry for any confusion! Never mind, we noticed it I even gave you a like for the effort 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Quote All sorted - I published it which actually requires: More > Move Thanks @adrian great to see it back! It looks like you know Wikipedia much better than me, would you be able to help maintain the page for ProcessWire going forward too? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 it seems, that @arjen also knows Wikipedia: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Quote it seems, that @arjen also knows Wikipedia: @horst That's great! Thanks @arjen! The more people we have working on it I think the better. I think part of the issue before was just that I created the page 5 years ago and had been the only one making updates to it, and likewise only one that crosslinked it to the CMS and CMF list pages on Wikipedia. I'm guessing this flags it somehow, as Wikipedia likes to see more community involvement (which makes sense). Since I'm still the person that originally created the page, I think it's also best that I'm not the one that adds it on other sections in Wikipedia. If any of you guys thinks that ProcessWire belongs on the Wikipedia CMS and CMF lists, would you consider adding ProcessWire to these pages below? List of content management systems:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems List of content management frameworks:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_frameworks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitPoet Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, ryan said: If any of you guys thinks that ProcessWire belongs on the Wikipedia CMS and CMF lists, would you consider adding ProcessWire to these pages below? List of content management systems:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems [X] This one: done. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szabesz Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 "Latest release date"... How can it be automatically kept up-to-date? We have incremental releases, so it is tedious to do it manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 4 hours ago, ryan said: Thanks @adrian great to see it back! It looks like you know Wikipedia much better than me, would you be able to help maintain the page for ProcessWire going forward too? haha - in reality it was Google that knew it better than you But I am happy to help maintain it. It might be nice if we have one person assigned to updating the latest stable version / release date info on the list of CMS's just so that a bunch of us don't go looking every week (or whenever you push dev to master which is pretty often these days) to see if it's already been done. I can put it in my calendar to take care of this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beluga Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 On 9.11.2016 at 3:30 PM, szabesz said: "Latest release date"... How can it be automatically kept up-to-date? We have incremental releases, so it is tedious to do it manually. You would have to run some editing script as cron I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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