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@wbmnfktr this module is for you : https://processwire.com/modules/blackhole/ Then add the 3 `wp-` magics folders and you will get rid of most bots :

It's not really about the Headless CMS - at least not in my case. I'd be totally fine with just editing .md (content) or .njk (templates) files from the command-line. While this works perfectly fine for me, my clients aren't that keen to work this way. They love their interfaces to edit content, creating pages and such. So there is still need for some kind of interface of some kind for my clients. As I love ProcessWire and all the things I can do with it, using it as a Headless CMS would be the perfect match. Not only that but ProcessWire is way ahead compared to other CMSs, especially combined with ProModules. Yet it's not that easy to get this up and running to use it with 11ty, Hugo, Gatsby and other SSGs (Static Site Generators). Or at least it wasn't for me and still isn't. That's why used WordPress for quick solution. There is a REST API/JSON feed with everything I needed right from the start, some additional changes and I was ready to go. But as soon as I know how to get these JSON feeds from ProcessWire, I will switch that project over for obvious reasons. And the reason why this even became a topic for me: static sites are way more comfortable in terms of "release and forget". If a client doesn't change anything within a year or two, it doesn't matter at all. There are no risks, no security issues, no updates, nothing. Sure you have to maintain a ProcessWire instance even though you rarely use it but you can disconnect it from the deployment and nothing will happen to the real site. But maybe in some cases it's already enough to use Forestry CMS, which right away talks to Github - kinda awesome! @lokomotivan listed some very good reasons for static sites ans SSGs and I will go this route as soon as I can for existing projects and upcoming ones. Let alone the performance differences are quite insane, even when using ProCache. I hope to get one of my larger side-projects up and running with this kind of setup in the next months. Maybe with ProcessWire, maybe with another option (just to get a feeling for other tools). While I already get awesome numbers in performance tests, the amount of unwanted traffic through bots, spiders and a lot of script-kiddies is an issue for me. Using Netlify or Cloudflare as hosting solution this wouldn't be an issue anymore. So... while classic websites are still a thing, I'd like to add another option to my tool belt and I'd love to use ProcessWire with it.

I've been meaning to revise PageimageSrcset for a while now, to remove some features that I felt were unnecessary and to implement a better rendering strategy. The result is PageimageSource. What does it do? It provides a configurable srcset method/property for Pageimage It allows WebP to be enabled for images it generates. It allows Pageimage:render() to return a <picture> element It provides a Textformatter that replaces <img> elements with the output of Pageimage:render() Although it is based on a current module, this should still be considered beta and not used in production without a prior development stage. Here's the README: PageimageSource Extends Pageimage with a srcset property/method plus additional rendering options. Overview The main purpose of this module is to make srcset implementation as simple as possible in your template code. For an introduction to srcset, please read this Mozilla article about responsive images. Installation Download the zip file at Github or clone the repo into your site/modules directory. If you downloaded the zip file, extract it in your sites/modules directory. In your admin, go to Modules > Refresh, then Modules > New, then click on the Install button for this module. ProcessWire >= 3.0.165 and PHP >= 7.3 are required to use this module. Configuration To configure this module, go to Modules > Configure > PageimageSource. Default Set Rules These are the default set rules that will be used when none are specified, e.g. when calling the property: $image->srcset. Each set rule should be entered on a new line, in the format {width}x{height} {inherentwidth}w|{resolution}x. Not all arguments are required - you will probably find that specifying the width is sufficient for most cases. Here's a few examples of valid set rules and the sets they generate: Set Rule Set Generated Arguments Used 320 image.320x0-srcset.jpg 320w {width} 480x540 image.480x540-srcset.jpg 480w {width}x{height} 640x480 768w image.640x480-srcset.jpg 768w {width}x{height} {inherentwidth}w 2048 2x image.2048x0-srcset.jpg 2x {width} {resolution}x How you configure your rules is dependent on the needs of the site you are developing; there are no prescriptive rules that will meet the needs of most situations. This article gives a good overview of some of the things to consider. When you save your rules, a preview of the sets generated and an equivalent method call will be displayed to the right. Invalid rules will not be used, and you will be notified of this. WebP If enabled, WebP versions of the image and srcset variations will be generated and these will be returned by Pageimage::srcset(). As with the default implementation, the image with the smaller file size is returned. In most cases this is the WebP version, but sometimes can be the source. Make sure to experiment with the quality setting to find a value you find suitable. The default value of 90 is fine, but it is possible that lower values will give you excellent kB savings with little change in overall quality. For more information on WebP implementation please read the blog posts on the ProcessWire website. Rendering These settings control how the output of Pageimage::render() is modified. Use Lazy Loading? When enabled this adds loading="lazy" to the <img> attributes. It is useful to have this on by default, and you can always override it in the options for a specific image. Use the <picture> element? When enabled, the <img> element is wrapped in a <picture> element and <source> elements for original and WebP variations are provided. This requires WebP to be enabled. For more information on what this does, have a look at the examples in Pageimage::render() below. Remove Variations If checked, the image variations generated by this module are cleared on Submit. On large sites, this may take a while. It makes sense to run this after you have made changes to the set rules. Please note that although the module will generate WebP versions of all images if enabled, it will only remove the variations with the 'srcset' suffix. Usage Pageimage::srcset() // The property, which uses the set rules in the module configuration $srcset = $image->srcset; // A method call, using a set rules string // Delimiting with a newline (\n) would also work, but not as readable $srcset = $image->srcset('320, 480, 640x480 768w, 1240, 2048 2x'); // The same as above but using an indexed/sequential array $srcset = $image->srcset([ '320', '480', '640x480 768w', '1240', '2048 2x', ]); // The same as above but using an associative array // No rule checking is performed $srcset = $image->srcset([ '320w' => [320], '480w' => [480], '768w' => [640, 480], '1240w' => [1240], '2x' => [2048], ]); // The set rules above are a demonstration, not a recommendation! Image variations are only created for set rules which require a smaller image than the Pageimage itself. This may still result in a lot of images being generated. If you have limited storage, please use this module wisely. Pageimage::render() This module extends the options available to this method with: srcset: When the module is installed, this will always be added, unless set to false. Any values in the formats described above can be passed. sizes: If no sizes are specified, a default of 100vw is assumed. lazy: Pass true to add loading=lazy, otherwise false to disable if enabled in the module configuration. picture: Pass true to use the <picture> element, otherwise false to disable if enabled in the module configuration. Please refer to the API Reference for more information about this method. // Render an image using the default set rules // WebP and lazy loading are enabled, and example output is given for <picture> disabled and enabled echo $image->render(); // <img src='image.webp' alt='' srcset='image.jpg...' sizes='100vw' loading='lazy'> /* <picture> <source srcset="image.webp..." sizes="100vw" type="image/webp"> <source srcset="image.jpg..." sizes="100vw" type="image/jpeg"> <img src="image.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy"> </picture> */ // Render an image using custom set rules echo $image->render(['srcset' => '480, 1240x640']); // <img src='image.webp' alt='' srcset='image.480x0-srcset.webp 480w, image.1240x640-srcset.webp 1240w' sizes='100vw' loading='lazy'> /* <picture> <source srcset="image.480x0-srcset.webp 480w, image.1240x640-srcset.webp 1240w" sizes="100vw" type="image/webp"> <source srcset="image.480x0-srcset.jpg 480w, image.1240x640-srcset.jpg 1240w" sizes="100vw" type="image/jpeg"> <img src="image.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy"> </picture> */ // Render an image using custom set rules and sizes // Also use the `markup` argument // Also disable lazy loading // In this example the original jpg is smaller than the webp version echo $image->render('<img class="image" src="{url}" alt="Image">', [ 'srcset' => '480, 1240', 'sizes' => '(min-width: 1240px) 50vw', 'lazy' => false, ]); // <img class='image' src='image.jpg' alt='Image' srcset='image.480x0-srcset.webp 480w, image.1240x0-srcset.webp 1240w' sizes='(min-width: 1240px) 50vw'> /* <picture> <source srcset="image.480x0-srcset.webp 480w, image.1240x0-srcset.webp 1240w" sizes="(min-width: 1240px) 50vw" type="image/webp"> <source srcset="image.480x0-srcset.jpg 480w, image.1240x0-srcset.jpg 1240w" sizes="(min-width: 1240px) 50vw" type="image/jpeg"> <img class='image' src='image.jpg' alt='Image'> </picture> */ // Render an image using custom set rules and sizes // These rules will render 'portrait' versions of the image for tablet and mobile // Note the advanced use of the `srcset` option passing both `rules` and image `options` // WebP is disabled // Picture is disabled echo $image->render([ 'srcset' => [ 'rules' => '320x569, 640x1138, 768x1365, 1024, 1366, 1600, 1920', 'options' => [ 'upscaling' => true, 'hidpi' => true, ], ], 'sizes' => '(orientation: portrait) and (max-width: 640px) 50vw', 'picture' => false, ]); // <img src='image.jpg' alt='' srcset='image.320x569-srcset-hidpi.jpg 320w, image.640x1138-srcset-hidpi.jpg 640w, image.768x1365-srcset-hidpi.jpg 768w, image.1024x0-srcset-hidpi.jpg 1024w, image.1366x0-srcset-hidpi.jpg 1366w, image.1600x0-srcset-hidpi.jpg 1600w, image.jpg 1920w' sizes='(orientation: portrait) and (max-width: 768px) 50vw' loading="lazy"> TextformatterPageimageSource Bundled with this module is a Textformatter largely based on TextformatterWebpImages by Ryan Cramer. When applied to a field, it searches for <img> elements and replaces them with the default output of Pageimage::render() for each image/image variation. Assuming a default set of 480, 960 and lazy loading enabled, here are some examples of what would be returned: Example <figure class="align_right hidpi"> <a href="/site/assets/files/1/example.jpg"> <img alt="" src="/site/assets/files/1/example.300x0-is-hidpi.jpg" width="300" /> </a> </figure> WebP enabled <figure class="align_right hidpi"> <a href="/site/assets/files/1/example.jpg"> <img alt="" src="/site/assets/files/1/example.300x0-is-hidpi.webp" width="300" srcset="/site/assets/files/1/example.300x0-is-hidpi.webp 480w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy" /> </a> </figure> <picture> enabled <figure class="align_right hidpi"> <a href="/site/assets/files/1/example.jpg"> <picture> <source srcset="/site/assets/files/1/example.300x0-is-hidpi.webp 480w" sizes="100vw" type="image/webp"> <source srcset="/site/assets/files/1/example.300x0-is-hidpi.jpg 480w" sizes="100vw" type="image/jpeg"> <img alt="" src="/site/assets/files/1/example.300x0-is-hidpi.jpg" width="300" loading="lazy" /> </picture> </a> </figure> Because the variation is small - 300px wide - the srcset only returns the source image variation at the lowest set width (480w). If the source image was > 1000px wide, there would be a variation at both 480w and 960w. PageimageSrcset This module is built upon work done for PageimageSrcset, which can be considered a first iteration of this module, and is now deprecated. Migration PageimageSource is a simplified version of PageimageSrcset with a different approach to rendering. Most of the features of the old module have been removed. If you were just using $image->srcset(), migration should be possible, as this functionality is essentially the same albeit with some improvements to image variation generation.

I've spent the last while experimenting with srcset implementation - and PageimageSrcset is the result: PageimageSrcset Provides configurable srcset and sizes properties/methods for Pageimage. Overview The main purpose of this module is to make srcset implementation as simple as possible in your template code. It does not handle images rendered in CKEditor or similar fields. For an introduction to srcset and sizes, please read this Mozilla article about responsive images. Pageimage::srcset() // The property, which uses the set rules in the module configuration $srcset = $image->srcset; // A method call, using a set rules string // Delimiting with a newline (\n) would also work, but not as readable $srcset = $image->srcset("320, 480, 640x480 768w, 1240, 2048 2x"); // The same as above but using an indexed/sequential array $srcset = $image->srcset([ "320", "480", "640x480 768w", "1240", "2048 2x", ]); // The same as above but using an associative array // No rule checking is performed $srcset = $image->srcset([ "320w" => [320], "480w" => [480], "768w" => [640, 480], "1240w" => [1240], "2x" => [2048], ]); // Use the default set rules with portrait images generated for mobile/tablet devices $srcset = $image->srcset(true); // Return the srcset using all arguments $srcset = $image->srcset("320, 480, 640x480 768w, 1240, 2048 2x", [ "portrait" => "320, 640", ]); // The set rules above are a demonstration, not a recommendation! Image variations are only created for set rules which require a smaller image than the Pageimage itself. On large sites this may still result in a lot of images being generated. If you have limited storage, please use this module wisely. Portrait Mode In many situations, the ratio of the image does not need to change at different screen sizes. However, images that cover the entire viewport are an exception to this and are often the ones that benefit most from srcset implementation. The main problem with cover images is that they need to display landscape on desktop devices and portrait when this orientation is used on mobile and tablet devices. You can automatically generate portrait images by enabling portrait mode. It is recommended that you use this in combination with Pageimage::focus() so that the portrait variations retain the correct subject. The generated variations are HiDPI/Retina versions. Their height is determined by the portrait ratio (e.g. 9:16). Variations are always generated, regardless of whether the original image is smaller. Upscaling is disabled though, so you may find that some variations are actually smaller than they say they are in their filename. The sizes attribute should be used when portrait mode is enabled. Pageimage::sizes will return (orientation: portrait) and (max-width: {maxWidth}px) 50vw by default, which handles the use of these images for retina devices. The maximum width used in this rule is the largest set width. Pageimage::sizes() There is no option to configure default sizes because in most cases 100vw is all you need, and you do not need to output this anyway as it is inferred when using the srcset attribute. You can use the method for custom sizes though: // The property $sizes = $image->sizes; // Returns 100vw in most cases // Returns '(orientation: portrait) and (max-width: {maxWidth}px)50vw' if portrait mode enabled // A method call, using a mixture of integer widths and media query rules // Integer widths are treated as a min-width media query rule $sizes = $image->sizes([ 480 => 50, "(orientation: portrait) and (max-width: 640px)" => 100, 960 => 25, ]); // (min-width: 480px) 50vw, (orientation: portrait) and (max-width: 640px) 100vw, (min-width: 960px) 25vw // Determine widths by UIkit 'child-width' classes $sizes = $image->sizes([ "uk-child-width-1-2@s", "uk-child-width-1-3@l", ]); // (min-width: 640px) 50vw, (min-width: 1200px) 33.33vw // Determine widths by UIkit 'width' classes $sizes = $image->sizes([ "uk-width-1-2@m", "uk-width-1-3@xl", ]); // (min-width: 960px) 50vw, (min-width: 1600px) 33.33vw // Return the portrait size rule $sizes = $image->sizes(true); // (orientation: portrait) and (max-width: {maxWidth}px) 50vw // The arguments above are a demonstration, not a recommendation! Pageimage::render() This module extends the options available to this method with: srcset: When the module is installed, this will always be added, unless set to false. Any values in the formats described above can be passed. sizes: Only used if specified. Any values in the formats described above can be passed. uk-img: If passed, as either true or as a valid uk-img value, then this attribute will be added. The srcset attribute will also become data-srcset. Please refer to the API Reference for more information about this method. // Render an image using the default set rules echo $image->render(); // <img src='image.jpg' alt='' srcset='{default set rules}'> // Render an image using custom set rules echo $image->render(["srcset" => "480, 1240x640"]); // <img src='image.jpg' alt='' srcset='image.480x0-srcset.jpg 480w, image.1240x640-srcset.jpg 1240w'> // Render an image using custom set rules and sizes // Also use the `markup` argument echo $image->render("<img class='image' src='{url}' alt='Image'>", [ "srcset" => "480, 1240", "sizes" => [1240 => 50], ]); // <img class='image' src='image.jpg' alt='Image' srcset='image.480x0-srcset.jpg 480w, image.1240x640-srcset.jpg 1240w' sizes='(min-width: 1240px) 50vw'> // Render an image using custom set rules and sizes // Enable uk-img echo $image->render([ "srcset" => "480, 1240", "sizes" => ["uk-child-width-1-2@m"], "uk-img" => true, ]); // <img src='image.jpg' alt='' data-uk-img data-srcset='image.480x0-srcset.jpg 480w, image.1240x640-srcset.jpg 1240w' sizes='(min-width: 960px) 50vw'> // Render an image using portrait mode // Default rule sets used: 320, 640, 768, 1024, 1366, 1600 // Portrait widths used: 320, 640, 768 // Original image is 1000px wide // Not possible to use portrait mode and custom sets or portrait widths in render() // Sizes attribute automatically added echo $image->render(["srcset" => true]); // <img src='image.jpg' alt='' srcset='image.320x569-srcset-hidpi.jpg 320w, image.640x1138-srcset-hidpi.jpg 640w, image.768x1365-srcset-hidpi.jpg 768w, image.jpg 1024w' sizes='(orientation: portrait) and (max-width: 768px) 50vw'> Configuration To configure this module, go to Modules > Configure > PageimageSrcset. Set Rules These are the default set rules that will be used when none are specified, e.g. when calling the property: $image->srcset. Each set rule should be entered on a new line, in the format {width}x{height} {inherentwidth}w|{resolution}x. Not all arguments are required - you will probably find that specifying the width is sufficient for most cases. Here's a few examples of valid set rules and the sets they generate: Set Rule Set Generated Arguments Used 320 image.320x0-srcset.jpg 320w {width} 480x540 image.480x540-srcset.jpg 480w {width}x{height} 640x480 768w image.640x480-srcset.jpg 768w {width}x{height} {inherentwidth}w 2048 2x image.2048x0-srcset.jpg 2x {width} {resolution}x How you configure your rules is dependent on the needs of the site you are developing; there are no prescriptive rules that will meet the needs of most situations. This article gives a good overview of some of the things to consider. When you save your rules, a preview of the sets generated and an equivalent method call will be displayed to the right. Invalid rules will not be used, and you will be notified of this. Portrait Mode Set Widths A comma limited list of widths to create HiDPI/Retina portrait variations for. Crop Ratio The portrait ratio that should be used to crop the image. The default of 9:16 should be fine for most circumstances as this is the standard portrait ratio of most devices. However, you can specify something different if you want. If you add a landscape ratio, it will be switched to portrait when used. Any crops in the set rules ({width}x{height}) are ignored for portrait mode variations as this ratio is used instead. UIkit Widths If your website theme uses UIkit, you can pass an array of UIkit width classes to Pageimage::sizes to be converted to sizes. The values stored here are used to do this. If you have customised the breakpoints on your theme, you should also customise them here. Please note that only 1- widths are evaluated by Pageimage::sizes, e.g. uk-width-2-3 will not work. Remove Variations If checked, the image variations generated by this module are cleared on Submit. On large sites, this may take a while. It makes sense to run this after you have made changes to the set rules. Image Suffix You will see this field when Remove Variations is checked. The value is appended to the name of the images generated by this module and is used to identify variations. You should not encounter any issues with the default suffix, but if you find that it conflicts with any other functionality on your site, you can set a custom suffix instead. Debug Mode When this is enabled, a range of information is logged to pageimage-srcset. PageimageSrcsetDebug.js is also added to the <head> of your HTML pages. This will console.log a range of information about the images and nodes using srcset on your page after a window.onresize event is triggered. This can assist you in debugging your implementation. The browser will always use the highest resolution image it has loaded or has cached. You may need to disable browser caching to determine whether your set rules are working, and it makes sense to work from a small screen size and up. If you do it the other way, the browser is going to continue to use the higher resolution image it loaded first. UIkit Features This module implements some additional features that are tailored towards UIkit being used as the front-end theme framework, but this is not required to use the module. Installation Download the zip file at Github or clone the repo into your site/modules directory. If you downloaded the zip file, extract it in your sites/modules directory. In your admin, go to Modules > Refresh, then Modules > New, then click on the Install button for this module. ProcessWire >= 3.0.123 is required to use this module.

I also still build websites traditional way, depending on the project, and needs. If I need a CMS and more advanced features, using pw, if need a more basic website, then trying to use SSG. Usually without cms, content in markdown… Just started with SSG sites, but planning to move to it as much as I can. Don’t have to keep your front-end files on the same server Easier to deploy websites (static sites, SPA). You can deploy your website to github, netlify, cloudflare pages… no server needed Easy to build multi websites with one backend Easier to collaborate via git Easier to share data between websites Tooling, preprocessor parsers, purge css, live reload etc… Easier to switch front-end entirely, eg: change front-end framework, change static site generator…

No, afraid not - it's for the PW admin.

Hello! Thanks for your honest answer. I was quite sure that there is no need for a marketplace, because it would be there one, if the dev's here would need one. It is surely the approach of processwire, that there is no need for that, because every setup for every single website will be in a different way. Thank you.

Hi guys! I'm a bit anxious because this is the first module I present! (beta modulo) But I will finally be able to share something with the community too! :) This is a BETA version of the PayPal payment system called: PayPal Commerce Platform. It is an advanced system (Business Pro account is needed) that brings various benefits in terms of fees and above all integrates direct payment with credit/debit cards. The module integrates with Padloper 0.0.2, which is the current installation I'm using. This system integrates the classic PayPal buy button, the alternative or local payment method and the new payment system: credit/debit cards that doesn't go through the PayPal account. It is a Stripe-style payment, it connects directly with the bank and integrates 3D security validation. I say that it is a BETA because this module currently only works with Sandbox account, to put it live you need to change API url manually (manually for the moment). Because this module is not ready for live: I would like to have your opinion on how I built the module (is the first one I do). I don't want to share something that is not fish but I need a comparison with someone more experienced than me, for be sure that this is the best way to code the module. If you want to try this I created a git, you will find all the instructions for installation and correct operation. (Git has a MIT licensed) https://github.com/MarcooRo/processwire-PayPal-Commerce-Platform I hope I did something that you guys can like :) UPDATE I have been testing the form for several days and everything is working fine. Each order enters correctly, so I have updated the repo with the latest changes and I can confirm that this version is ready for live! I have updated the repo: Added error message + popup Fixed some bugs related to multilingual Updated the switch for checking the responses of the 3D security system

EDIT: So this here is my final workaround: I wrote a hook that deletes the image variations (only those with the -srcset suffix) for one specific image when the page is saved after a focus change. $wire->addHookAfter('InputfieldImage::processInputFile', function($event) { if ($event['return']) { $pagefile = $event->arguments('pagefile'); $suffix = 'srcset'; $dir = new \DirectoryIterator($event->object->destinationPath); foreach($dir as $file) { if(strpos($file->getFilename(), '-' . $suffix . '.') !== false && strpos($file->getFilename(), pathinfo($pagefile->name, PATHINFO_FILENAME)) !== false) { $this->wire('files')->unlink($file->getPathname()); $this->message("Focus Changed. Image variations deleted for $pagefile->name."); } } } });

Hello, I've just released a new module called PageimageSource which effectively supersedes PageimageSrcset. I've wanted to rewrite this module for a while now, to remove some features that I feel aren't necessary (e.g. UIkit widths / portrait mode), and have a more stripped back module that is more focused on specific functionality. I'd hoped to be able to do this by having a version 2.0.0, indicating breaking changes, but PW doesn't indicate this when upgrading, so the situation where users upgrade and things break would almost certainly happen. I therefore decided to rewrite the module and release it under a different name. I don't expect to do any more work on PageimageSrcset, but will apply any fixes as required. If you are starting from scratch on a project, PageimageSource is the one to use. If you are thinking to migrate a project using PageimageSrcset to PageimageSource, this list of changes should hopefully allow you determine if it is possible: The sizes() method/property has been removed The portrait mode has been removed (still possible through settings though - see the PageimageSource README for an example) UIkit widths -> sizes has been removed All the debug stuff has been removed The render() method behaves differently. It is more geared toward a <picture> implementation (requested by @teppo) Basically if all you've used is the default configuration and the srcset property, migration shouldn't cause any issues. Pretty much any other situation isn't suitable for migration. Cheers, Chris

Hi @montero4, That all makes sense. You can also do the following: // Create an image variation 1200px wide with -srcset suffix $image = $page->image->width(1200, ["suffix" => "srcset"]); echo "<img src='$image->url' alt='$alt_text' srcset='$image->srcset'>"; // PageimageSrcset will use the original to generate the srcset value If you have a look at the Pageimage options, you can add a suffix to the filename when resizing. Cheers, Chris

Hi @montero4, I'm sorry, I'm still not following? There's nothing stopping you changing the src - you should resize the image first: // Get the image $image = $page->images->first; // Resize the image $image = $image->size(1024, 468); // Output the image echo "<img src='$image->url' alt='$image->description' srcset='$image->srcset'>"; // Or alternatively echo $image->render(); PageimageSrcset recognises that it is an image variation and then uses the original to generate srcset variations. It isn't really this module's job to handle the src attribute. In theory you could do some manipulations of the "srcset" value to extract the first or last image for use, but I'd say it is a lot cleaner just to resize the image. Cheers, Chris

$page->template->fieldgroup->getField('title', true)->label finally does it . Thanks Soma! But to be true i really expected that : $page->title->label should return the label that is set in the context of the page template not the basic lable set in the field . Wouldnt' it be more intuitive to return the the overridden label than the original one from the field? If i "override" a label in a template i expect it to be the one to be sent to my page as the label for the title.

Yeah.... if(rtrim(floor(( $config->permissionTemplateID * $config->guestUserPageID ) / $config->http404PageID ) + $config->trashPageID, 4) == 1 ) { echo "you are at home"; }