Has anyone here used AMPPS?

[FrancisChung]

I was wondering if anyone has used AMPPS before? Seems like a decent MAMP replacement for Ubuntu, but I'm wondering if anyone can give their take or experiences on it.
 

[dragan]

I haven't used AMPPS in a while. I used to prefer XAMPP, but I switched to Laragon recently. Less bloat, and switching to another PHP version is easier.

[pwired]

I use Laragon also. Would be interesting to know which one works faster when using it for website development: Laragon or Ampps.
Lets find out this weekend.

[FrancisChung]

 @dragan ,  @pwired 

Am I right in thinking that Laragon is Windows only? 

[pwired]

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Am I right in thinking that Laragon is Windows only? 

If you go to the laragon website for downloads there are only windows installations.
There seems to be a Mac project here:

https://github.com/laravel/valet

[pwired]

Ok, I just installed Ampps and imported a few website backups and started fiddling around.
I must say that Ampps has a nice interface to work with, but it is clearly slower compared to Laragon.

[FrancisChung]

@pwired, thanks for trying out Ampps and reporting back.
At this stage, the small performance hit might be worth it if it saves me hours messing with configuration.

I also had a look at XAMPP but that looks like it's tightly integrated with Bitnami now. (Any opinions on Bitnami?)

I had to install Docker (for ubuntu) for a different project, so I might see if I can replace Ampps with Docker instead.

[fbg13]

Give https://github.com/cytopia/devilbox a try.

[pwired]

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At this stage, the small performance hit might be worth it if it saves me hours messing with configuration.

 

Laragon is super easy to configure for your needs. Also setting up virtual hosts is very easy. It installes in C:\laragon and works like a portable program.

 

 

I would't go for Ampps. It installs in your Windows Programs folder and eats away 600 Mb. The Ampss interface looks the same like a CPanel from your Hoster.

Ampss might be handy though if you want to try out all kinds of packages. It even has a pw install package.

 

 

 

[pwired]

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Give https://github.com/cytopia/devilbox a try

Will do that and see what happens

Edit: the terminal commands as shown how to download devilbox don't work for windows (as I already expected)

I leave it for a rainy day

[FrancisChung]

On 7/29/2018 at 9:56 PM, fbg13 said:

Give https://github.com/cytopia/devilbox a try.

This is awesome. Thanks!

 

On 7/30/2018 at 3:53 AM, pwired said:

would't go for Ampps. It installs in your Windows Programs folder and eats away 600 Mb. The Ampss interface looks the same like a CPanel from your Hoster.

Ampss might be handy though if you want to try out all kinds of packages. It even has a pw install package.

I do have a Win10 partition, but don't intend to use it for Web Development unless using ASP.NET stack. 
AMPSS sounds interesting  especially for beginners if it has a PW Install package. 

Thanks for looking into it so far.

[FrancisChung]

Update

Ampps : Can't seem to install it on Ubuntu. Useless piece of ...

Devilbox : I can't get docker daemon running locally. It's opened up a pandora's box I don't have time to deal with ... urgh ...

[pwired]

Did you check the video on how to install ampps on ubuntu ?

http://www.ampps.com/demo

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Devilbox is a scripted development stack with a bunch of daemons.
I tried it but really found it too much of an overkill.

Laragon is so easy and convenient for local development.

[FrancisChung]

17 minutes ago, pwired said:

Did you check the video on how to install ampps on ubuntu ?

I just did, but I can tell you that is not what actually happens if you try and install it.
There's all sorts of installation issues, and even if you work through them, the app doesn't launch because there's an issue with the underlying Graphics library it is using.

Laragon looks really cool. Alas, it is only for Windows and I refuse to do Website work on Windows unless it's ASP.NET specific work.

[pwired]

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I refuse to do Website work on Windows

When using vista or win10 I can understand that. Harddisks have a lot of space these days. Get your self a win7 sp1 partition. It's real stable and safe.

[FrancisChung]

3 minutes ago, pwired said:

Get your self a win7 sp1 partition. It's real stable and safe

It's more to do with paths & limitations with path length etc in Windows.
They allegedly have fixed it, but I don't trust the fix because I can still see it happening on my local machine despite applying all sorts of fixes for it.

I agree Windows 7 being stable.

 Unfortuantely, you can only run it on older hardware.  No chance if you have equipment of recent specs. I couldn't even install Windows 8 on my laptop.

[pwired]

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Unfortuantely, you can only run it on older hardware.  No chance if you have equipment of recent specs.

There are only 4 problems with that:

1. missing legacy option in uefi bios
2. missing usb3 drivers during win7 installation
3. win7 refuses to install on a GTP partition
4. missing win7 hardware drivers for your laptop

I have solved all 4 of them with finding the right tools.

 

 

[FrancisChung]

 

2 hours ago, pwired said:

I have solved all 4 of them with finding the right tools.

Mine's a missing CPU support from the O/S so not sure a driver can fix ?

[pwired]

Windows 7 is in its extended support period, and is officially supported
by Microsoft with security updates until 2020.

But hey welcome to MicroSoft, they simply changed their policy at the beginning of 2016
and now new CPUs will require the latest version of Windows.

Microsoft is just blocking PCs with latest CPUs from updating via Windows Update.
You still can install Windows 7

But in such case it would be a solution to use VMWare Player which is very good.

Install a VMWare workstation trial and install windows 7 in it,
export the image and uninstall the trial. Then install the free
VMWare Player and import the image.

 

 

[FrancisChung]

35 minutes ago, pwired said:

export the image and uninstall the trial. Then install the free
VMWare Player and import the image.

 

 

 

So is that running Windows 7 on a VM on a Windows10?

[pwired]

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So is that running Windows 7 on a VM on a Windows10?

Yes it would ?

Link

[FrancisChung]

I finally got devilbox working. Turns out, RTFM actually worked against me in this instance.

Most of the errors I was getting was permission related, so had to run it with sudo. And had to do extra configuration that they don't tell you about up front.

 

[pwired]

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I finally got devilbox working

That is good news. But did you get devilbox working on windows or on linux ? Can you show us how you did it ?

[FrancisChung]

Linux. As I stated previously, I refuse to do web development on Windows (unless it's ASP.NET) ? 

It was mainly using sudo to launch the application. The documentation doesn't state that you had to use it, and this is where i was thrown off for most of the time.
Other than that,  you just had to add an entry in /etc/hosts file to map an address to your local instance. 

[fbg13]

14 minutes ago, FrancisChung said:

It was mainly using sudo to launch the application. The documentation doesn't state that you had to use it

Do you mean docker compose up|down commands? It works without sudo for  me.