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Well - here's actually the IDE that lets you simply code how it should.

http://www.webuilderapp.com/

http://www.webuilderapp.com/highlights.php

Makes coding (e.g. a website) no longer work, but a pleasure.

Also makes this thread obsolete because of inbuild customizable Code Library and code folding

http://processwire.com/talk/topic/1018-repository-of-php-scripts-for-templates/page-2#entry43079

And no I am not affiliated with them.

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Also makes this thread obsolete because of inbuild customizable Code Library and code folding

http://processwire.com/talk/topic/1018-repository-of-php-scripts-for-templates/page-2#entry43079

Hm, one thing doesn't have to do with another. This thread refers to a place where people can share snippets of code. On that editor you would only have the ones that are useful for you, not all of them. It's like saying that you don't need a modules repository because you can have all of them installed on your sites, no?

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On that editor you would only have the ones that are useful for you, not all of them

And that's exactly what is working for each one of us.

Finding php scripts in a (git) (on-line) repository for less skilled php coders that they might need in the future is very unlikely because each one of us has different skills, works on different projects with different levels and needs. You will never have all the php scripts in a repository that fits the bill for every situation. In those cases either learn to write your own php script or just ask help on a forum or search with google. Already tons of php forums and scripts out there. Unlike a module repository, php is a language that can / should be learned.

There are a lot of past posts in this forum about php scripts and learning.

http://www.webuilderapp.com/highlights.php

http://www.scripts.com/php-scripts/

http://www.phpjunkyard.com/

http://www.hscripts.com/scripts/php/

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A description would be nice...what's included?

Almost 3000 php scripts, more than a git or on-line repository ever would become O0

I'd suggest deleting the links until you are sure  ...just a suggestion

Yes, good suggestion.

All Links deleted.

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Anyway here's a truck load of php scripts (> 700 Mb)

click slow download - no thanks - download ;)

A description would be nice...what's included?

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Hmmm...Google says this is also on PB (plus other file sharing sites)...the description on PB (and elsewhere) talks about premium scripts....see where I am going with this? Can you please confirm? Thanks.

If you are unsure, I'd suggest deleting the links until you are sure :) ...just a suggestion ;)

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However... I'd love to see an equivalent system for the Mac!

http://www.webuilderapp.com/highlights.php

I guess sometimes a windows program beats any equivalent for the Mac :-X

Try running Windows in a virtual machine within OS X, use Parallels Desktop, VMware

Fusion, or VirtualBox. You could run more windows programs in that case.

VirtualBox is free and I have good experience with it.

Or use something like CrossOver

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pwired, you posted now half a dozen links to that webuilder. It's cool you found it and seem to like it but little annoying to have 3 continuous posts of you with the same links to their features list. Apart from that it's not an IDE but a code editor. :P

I almost closed window after reading: "WeBuilder is a faster, smarter and more powerful all-in-one code editor for web developers. Clean interface, ..."

I never got why these editors have so many buttons and interfaces (ugly)... then they even write something like:

"No clutter
WeBuilder is quick, clean and lightweight. It very powerful, yet not stuffed with useless buttons or panels." lol?

Looking at their websites code, I think doesn't speak well for them and their editor. I'm so happy I don't have to use such editors and there's these wonderful new editors that focus on what's important.

// personal rant over

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I'm with soma here. If I wouldn't mind lots of buttons in a code editor I would be using a full featured IDE like netbeans for a long time already.

Speaking of that, I really like the semantic commands in light table. You press ctrl+space, write "op"... oh "open file" is already there. You press ctrl+space, write (set)... oh "user settings" are already there.

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Sublime Text 3 finally got me to convert from Textmate.

Soma pointed me in the direction of the monitor file option for Sublime SFTP which is great! As mentioned above, it allows you to monitor a compiled .css file and upload it whenever there are changes - even from and external source like CodeKit. My only complaint is that the monitoring stops when the file is closed or you quit Sublime Text, but as Soma mentioned ctrl+cmd+u+m on a file you need to monitor and that's it.

I use the following packages/plugins

- docBlocker // comments

- SFTP // file uploads

- SassBeautify // indented .scss files

- Sass // syntax highlighting

// No need for Codekit. Compile your .css on save with 

- SublimeSaveOnBuild & Sass Build System

- Synced Sidebar // not sure why this isn't native functionality

Aside: I tried PHPStorm as well, but there is just way too much visual clutter for me.

It's super powerful and I know people love it, but I felt like I was using Dreamweaver 2. :P

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I never got why these editors have so many buttons and interfaces (ugly)... then they even write something like:

WeBuilder is quick, clean and lightweight. It very powerful, yet not stuffed with useless buttons or panels." lol?

Looking at their websites code, I think doesn't speak well for them and their editor.

Clutter ? Ugly ? Better have a look under View. There you can:

1. Choose 6 different interface layouts or save your own

2. Disable or enable or customize as many toolbars as you want to appear in the interface.

3. Same for tabs, preview, hide panels.

4. Choose different interface styles and go even further tweak your own color schemes.

And I didn't look at their websites code but simply tried webuilder and only then came to my conclusion that it really rocks. And you so happy you don't have to use such editors and there's these wonderful new editors that focus on what's important, well that reads pretty personal to me. Besides that, webuilder is a time saver something that is always important.

Webuilder isn't from yesterday either but has a 7 year history of improvements.

http://www.softpedia.com/progChangelog/WeBuilder-Changelog-23216.html

and you can read about their roadmap on the bottom of this page

http://www.webuilderapp.com/whatsnew.php

When something is really good, the word needs to be spread :P

Can say the same of processwire.

// end of my webuilder contribution

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Maybe it is a trend (I hope is not) to minimize the interface to an extreme while keeping the maximum of functionality. This doesn't happen only with code editors, but also with websites, web apps, and even with physical things. There is also a tendency of reducing the number of functions that a thing does so there is a good focus on those that it does. I really like to see where this effort is going, and personally enjoy much more to work with such tools (I consider PW one of them). I really dislike looking for a button in the middle of many as much as I dislike looking for a piece of garlic in my fridge.

Of course, if features wouldn't be important I would still be using scribes http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/scribes-is-very-interesting.html, but I'm not...

That said, this all goes down to a matter of personal preference, of course.

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Maybe it is a trend (I hope is not) to minimize the interface to an extreme while keeping the maximum of functionality.

Or just leave it up to the user and let him choose how many buttons, what layout and style he prefers to see

when working with a program. Many programs have a view button where you can do that.

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Hiding the buttons is not enough. There have to be alternative ways of reaching the functions that were accomplished by those buttons, and once the software has those alternative ways, it doesn't make sense to keep the possibility of putting the buttons back...

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I think it comes down to user preference as Diogo says.

Some people would rather have things streamlined by default rather than drowning under contextual menus.

Most projects tend to be a combination of design and functionality and more often than not one side is stronger than the other. I think this shows through from the screenshots.

Well designed applications tend to make the experience more pleasurable and conversely if something doesn't feel "right", then the user isn't going to stick around long enough to figure out that there's a button in a submenu that does X, Y or Z.


EDIT: I'm not "liking" anything more Diogo says. He has too many likes already. The greedy so-and-so.

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I have installed NB and Eclipse b4 but am always overwhelmed by their looks (and I really dislike all those yellow warnings when coding PHP!; can they be turned off until when needed?). I have been using NP++ but feel I need something more robust, esp for PHP (class/methods detection, etc.) Never used ST or WeBuilder b4.  Now, I have just downloaded their eval versions to, eh, check them out. Just done a quick test of WB. Stripped it down to no toolbars. This is how it looks like. From my quick test, it seems you can still reach all the functions that were provided by the buttons via the menu and shortcuts for some..Haven't finished testing....

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Next, ST!

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I made my decision. ST it's gonna be. The functionality, packages and licence terms are just too attractive. Finally got won over after watching Jeffrey Way videos on ST. Thank you all for your suggestions. This looks like it will be one of the best 40 quid I've ever spent :). 

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