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Warning: it's going to be TL;DR so proceed with caution
In an effort to come up with an optimized development workflow, I have come up with the idea of implementing most of the required template files in the form of static HTML files first (based on a "CSS framework" which will also serve as the CSS base of the site).
Basically I want to implement most of the frontend without touching ProcessWire in the first place. The advantage of this approach is that it is a lot faster to work with only HTML/CSS/JS during the frontend design phase of the project, and the end result of the design phase can be "similar" to a wireframe/mockup which can be presented to a client, but this "mockup" actually represents (say) 80% of the final design, so it is something that is rather good to work with when the backend development with ProcessWire begins.
This also means that my ProcessWire template files will be mostly implemented with <?php echo ... ?> and alternative syntax control structures that can be "just injected" into the above mentioned static HTML template files to turn them into ProcessWire template files later on.
So far so good, but my ProcessWire template files are going to be separated into "template file partials", and I also want to implement the static HTML template files in the same way, so that they are also separated into "template file partials", and ideally organized in the very same structure.
E.g. I will include the site's navigation in the ProcessWire template file like this:
<?php echo $navigation ?>
So I want to do the same in the corresponding static HTML template file, something like this:
If it can be done recursively, then I can implement the same in both cases. With ProcessWire, I use wireRenderFile() to render partials recursively, so I just had to figure out what to use in the case of the static HTML template files.
Note, that currently this technique only works in Chrome(-ium), but that is my choice in frontend development anyway. I've read somewhere that other browsers might never implement "HTML Imports", but that is to be seen...
I have found a lot of articles explaining the basics of "HTML Imports", but I could not find any libraries or frameworks nor even something similar to what I need, so I implemented a proof of concept version of mine:
Here it is in action (Chrome(-ium) only!!!): [...no longer live...]
And here is the source code for those who want to take a closer look: [...old stuff, I removed it to save space...]
However, I'm pretty sure that someone must have already come up with this idea, so I'm asking the ProcessWire community if anyone can point me to similar solutions, something that I can study and/or use.
So any piece of advice that might help me to take it to the next level, or any objections to this "HTML Imports" technique, any disadvantages? Thank you in advance
As the question says, I'd really like to learn about your initial client communication workflows. In other words, what's your process like from the moment you get a request to provide a quote for a website to the moment you actually send the quote?
My current workflow:
A client fills out the contact form on my site to request a quote. I review the information provided and send them a Word document questionnaire with a list of questions. I ask for things like project scope, features needed, desired timeline, allocated budget, etc. They fill out the document and send it back to me. I review the information provided and make sure I've got everything I need. I write and send the quote to the client. Client accepts the quote. I send them a contract, get it signed and collect 50% of total payment. I gather some extra information from them, usually just by asking questions via email or by sending them another Word document questionnaire. I start building their site. Lately, I've been thinking about changing this workflow a bit. Currently, my online contact form has three fields: name, email and message. What I'm thinking is, what if I provide a select toggle above my form so that clients can choose between a simple, general enquiries form and a larger form (with all the questions I've got in my Word document) to request a quote? This would allow me to do away with the Word document, and would make this a one-step process.
The reason why I haven't done this so far is because I'm not sure how good of an idea it is to have a long contact form with say, 10-15 questions. What's your take on this?
Another thing I'm not entirely happy with is having to send them two questionnaires (steps 2 and 8). The reason why I do this is because I don't want to overwhelm them with lots of questions at the beginning, and also because, to be honest, the questions I ask in the 2nd questionnaire do not really influence pricing, as they have more to do with the nature of their business, their goals with the new site, possible corporate colours they may have, things like that.
What do you guys think? Does my workflow seem sensible to you? Is it similar to what you do? What would you change?
Thanks, and sorry for the brick!
P.S. If some of you guys are willing to share your client questionnaires I would certainly appreciate it.
we started our first Processwire driven project in my new company and for the first time, I was working on one site with more than 2 colleagues on the same site.
It didn't take long for us to stumble across some problems when multiple developers work at the same time, conflicts with updating the database on vagrant machines, like duplicate entries for page IDs, errors when setting up fields and stuff like this. We ended up working on a dedicated database server, that we linked to our vagrant machines and most of the problems were gone, but the performance of this constellation is really bad compared to our first approach with database running on vagrant machines.
I already tried to find a solution in the forums but I couldn't find anyone with problems like this.
So I was wondering: how do you manage projects with multiple developers on vagrant machines in a git-based workflow?
I'm a System Administrator responsible for DevOps in our Company. We're trying PW in a single client project atm and experience some glitches with DevOps-/Workflow.
We have a small team of developers that need to work with the same code base. They all need to be able to develop locally and deploy to a preview/staging environment.
Our Toolstack contains git for versioning, chef/vagrant or docker for local development/testing and Jenkins for building assets and automatic deployment to the staging-site.
There's several challenges / glitches in this process that makes me think that ProcessWire hadn't been developed for a use case like ours and is much more intended to be used by single developers that work right on the production system.
Can you advise me on a suitable workflow?
There's problems with the assets/files dir that must be shared between the staging website and local environments of our developers.
We're right now working with symlinks on the staging system that helps to preserve the direcory when deploying from the master branch. but now we tend to use nfs-shares so devs can collaborate with a shared directory.
The local docker containers can use the same target (the nfs) from inside the containers. But is that the way it needs to be done? Really?
There's so much work that needs to be done to fit ProcessWire in a DevOps Workflow that we tend to decide to switch to another CMS.
Any suggestions or hints that i might have missed. Am I wrong or is PW really not meant to be used this way. I