MadeMyDay Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Just finished another one: http://www.hirschenhotels.com Their styleguide is a bit weird for a "romantic" hotel. Futura as font and these green/red colors are not ideas of mine ;-) On the PW side pretty regular stuff, mostly core functions. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingers Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Nice one, I really like it. Are you using pjax for page transitions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeMyDay Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Thx. Erm, don't know what pjax is ;-) Transitions are usual CSS3 transitions, some of them triggered by JS with transition.js which is just a kind of API/layer for CSS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingers Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 pjax is ajax + pushstate, a nice way to use regular ajax but having urls changing accordingly to the page you are looking at. ( more here ) Since left sidebar always remains at the same place (and didn't noticed any flashes when i change pages) I thought you were using that method to manage transitions ( it's a good thing IMHO ). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeMyDay Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Ah, now I see. No, no ajax-voodoo here ;-) Thx for pointing me to pjax, I used history.js for that purpose once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrura Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 really nice site - great design, concept and overall feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videokid Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Very nice! One thing I noticed, when sizing down the window [not with the min-button], then maximizing again [with max button], the nice background on the left is gone. Only happens on Chrome, not in Opera or FF. Chrome is my default browser btw. That facebook news is very nice, is that a plug-in of some kind? Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 good and clear design! "Buchungsanfrage" isn't completly implemented? When trying I don't get a list of rooms or calendars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeMyDay Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Thx to all! That facebook news is very nice, is that a plug-in of some kind? It's done per individual script as explained here. One thing I noticed, when sizing down the window [not with the min-button], then maximizing again [with max button], the nice background on the left is gone. Only happens on Chrome, not in Opera or FF. Chrome is my default browser btw. Doesn't happen here. But since there some JS actions triggered when resizing the window there can sometimes go something wrong. Especially when resizing very fast over two breakpoints. Shouldn't be a "real world" issue, though ;-) (at least I hope that) "Buchungsanfrage" isn't completly implemented? When trying I don't get a list of rooms or calendars. It's just an Iframe with content from their booking provider. Perhaps they had some loading issues? After clicking on "Buchungsanfrage" you have to click on one of the buttons because the site represents two hotels with two booking forms (also one those weird decisions to run two different booking forms for two hotels which are side by side) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videokid Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 It's done per individual script as explained here. Doesn't happen here. But since there some JS actions triggered when resizing the window there can sometimes go something wrong. Especially when resizing very fast over two breakpoints. Shouldn't be a "real world" issue, though ;-) (at least I hope that) Thx for the link! I thought so about the JS, it's certainly not a 'real world' issue, at first I was like 'huh', what was that? So I thought, let's mention it, after all the effort you did. Probably nobody will notice it, no doubt... fact remains: very nice website! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwired Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Nice website. Layout and style fits for a hotel. Hotels have usually a big cashflow so you can charge them more than a regular customer. I think that Hotels are interesting clients as well because they need updates to be done on the website. How did you catch this hotel website project ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeMyDay Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Hotels have usually a good cashflow so you can charge them more than a regular customer. Not true. First of all I don't manipulate my prices depending on a potential cash flow. And second, hotels act in a very competitive market, so I wouldn't generalize it ;-) Hotels are interesting clients as well because they need updates to be done on the website. My goal is always to deliver a tool with which my customers don't need any support from me. That's the reason why I use PW. I am not like the old school agencies which deliver TYPO3 only for supporting contracts. My available time is short, I don't want to fix things, I want to create things. How did you catch this hotel website project ? Mainly because of another website I did recently: http://hotelderblauereiter.de 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwired Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Not true. First of all I don't manipulate my prices depending on a potential cash flow. You make it almost sound if I said something negative. What's wrong with charging a higher price for a hotel website compared to a local flower shop website ? My goal is always to deliver a tool with which my customers don't need any support from me. Not always a customer has somebody around that knows how to update a website, even if the website is done with pw. Not only building websites makes money but also updating them. To get service (update) contracts is very normal to earn money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeMyDay Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 You make it almost sound if I said something negative. What's wrong with charging a higher price for a hotel website compared to a local flower shop website ? Wasn't intended, sorry ;-) There is nothing wrong with that. What I wanted to say was: If someone can't afford it, there will be no contract. And if someone has a plenty of money, he gets more features. But I usually don't adjust my hourly rate depending on the clients. Not always a customer has somebody around that knows how to update a website, even if the website is done with pw. Not only building websites makes money but also updating them. To get service (update) contracts is very normal to earn money. Of course. But it is not the way I want to work. See: Creating things is exciting, putting text on websites isn't. I am alone, I don't want to spend my time copying&pasting text on websites. It is something completely different if you are a.) not fully engaged or if you have b.) some (cheaper) employees with which you can handle such tasks. this is how agencies usually handle it, but as I said, I am alone and want to concentrate on the creative processes like concept, design and realization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwired Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I guess it's all a market issue to find clients in your own working field. Some clients will look for an agency with employees in the first place who can offer not only creating a website but also a range of available services (such as updating and maintenance). But if such a website was not too big and I could handle such a website on my own, I guess I wouldn't say no to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeMyDay Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yes, you are right. Always depends on the size of a company. But my impression is that most companies want to maintain their site on their own (regarding content). Mostly because they made bad experiences with agencies charging them for every little bit, for every little change. Of course, if a company exceeds a certain size and has an annual budget for their website, they are more likely to outsource everything related to the website. But I always try to anticipate their needs for the next few years and try to implement the system as flexible as possible. Can result in little higher fixed costs but after that they usually haven't to bother me for changing little or even medium details ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwired Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 But I always try to anticipate their needs for the next few years and try to implement the system as flexible as possible. Can result in little higher fixed costs but after that they usually haven't to bother me for changing little or even medium details ;-) I like that and made a note of it. That is a very good project issue to discuss with your client at forehand. Builds professional relationship and trust with your client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeMyDay Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 I like that. That is a very good project issue to discuss with your client at forehand. Builds professional relationship with your client. and results in recommendations ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roderigo Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Mr. MadeMyday Are you still want to help Roderigo Kitchen with new online menu and Maryla express order? I have great rewards and coupons but have not heard. Thanking you, Roderigo Sosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Another great site–nice job! My goal is always to deliver a tool with which my customers don't need any support from me. That's the reason why I use PW. I am not like the old school agencies which deliver TYPO3 only for supporting contracts. My available time is short, I don't want to fix things, I want to create things. I liked reading this. Great way to put it. It's exactly what I try to do with my clients too. Though I have had a couple of clients that want the site built in ProcessWire so that they can make edits, but then continue to sending text edits to me… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeMyDay Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 but then continue to sending text edits to me… happens to me, too. I always charge them on a hourly basis then. But fortunately doesn't happen so often, so it can be done in a break ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragan Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 My available time is short, I don't want to fix things, I want to create things. That's the right attitude And yes, nice site! Kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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