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@Mustafa Online it will rely on a lot of files in the wire directory but in theory most things should be able to be overridden without changing files outside of the admin theme. To be honest I've not looked at this particular admin theme (no time recently) so I'm not even sure where to start. Hopefully you'll be able to work it out but please do ask questions if you get stuck.

This also appears to be the last blog post: https://processwire.com/blog/posts/new-2.8-version-current-projects-and-pw-usage/ - suggests it's ready for others to tinker with (the original idea with that theme was for Ryan to build the framework and others to come up with designs).

Since that's the master branch I don't think that's a problem? There's nothing drastically changed in the ProcessWire admin interface since May. Indeed - the two built-in admin themes haven't had an update in 4 months so they're all up to date: https://github.com/processwire/processwire/tree/master/wire/modules/AdminTheme The dev branch shows that the main admin theme has had an update recently for improving appearance of language tabs but I'm not sure whether that is required for the other two - I'd guess it would be addressed before it hits the master branch though: https://github.com/processwire/processwire/commit/651e8bd20c1f7bf13c08a2098f862adf82700a28

Thanks Dave - I've fixed the form URL.

Thanks! It is largely UIKit with some CSS alterations and a couple of hundred extra lines of CSS added in. It's really not far from what UIKit gives you out of the box and as such I more or less designed it in the browser - I don't think I've even got a mock-up of it in Photoshop! The only problem with that approach is I'll have to steer away from UIKit a bit more for the next one or they could all end up looking pretty similar

I finally re-launched Notanotherdotcom - my business website. Things were looking a little dated for a few years, but finding some spare time to give it an overhaul was difficult (I'm sure that resonates with a lot of people here). There's still more content to go on. I'm working through some more recent projects to put on the portfolio but I want to do a bit of a write-up for each one rather than just keep putting up isolated screenshots without much description of what work actually went into each project. It also has a blog where ProcessWire will definitely get a mention. I started writing the second article yesterday, titled "A Better CMS", but when I finally settled on my 3 main reasons for using ProcessWire it quickly began turning into 3 separate blog posts, so keep an eye out for those.

Done: https://processwire.com/about/chat/ I included a sensible (I hope!) intro to say why people should consider using the forums for most questions and answers, and the chatroom as a place to hang out or get help in a hurry if someone's there.

Thanks @Beluga - I'll look into that now for you.

OH, I thought you were talking about posts automatically being merged within a certain time period. This particular feature is just regular "flood control" to prevent member accounts being able to spam lots of posts all over the place before a staff member can intervene. I think we probably have enough staff now though that it can be lowered to 30 seconds from the current setting of 60 seconds - does that help?

@bernhard it's set at 1 minute within which it will merge posts. This is by design so people don't create lots and lots of separate posts every time they meant to add a small addition to their last post. It's a global setting unfortunately so since it seems to be fine for most other people I'm going to leave it as it is.

Awesome Rudy - I was hoping someone would make something like this a few months ago and now here it is Please feel free to add it to the modules directory (mark it as Beta if you want to make people aware there may be bugs): http://modules.processwire.com/

@horst - I am sooooo happy this is back in PW3, thanks for your hard work!

Nice work @Jonathan Lahijani and @cmscritic - glad you're back on ProcessWire and WOW the site loads fast now!

@netcarver I had to take a look at the old forum to see what you meant - I'd never even noticed that feature before Since that still exists in the forum view you would think it would be easy enough to drop the code back into the new activity stream view, but alas it's not that easy. I'll take a look, but it's unlikely it will be possible since the same template is used for topics in the stream as is used for status updates so it's a bit of a complex minefield.

I'm afraid it doesn't exist in the new version - they stripped out a bunch of features that weren't used on the majority of sites to trim the features down a bit and that was one that went unfortunately. There doesn't even seem to be a third-party plugin to bring it back either.

Thought it was high time I released this one into the wild after sitting on it for a year or more - oops!

This module allows the default admin - and other users you specify - to login as any other user as defined in the module config. This could be useful for reproducing errors your users can see on websites or during testing, but I would suggest it is used wisely as there are some obvious snooping abilities in using this. Once installed, you can configure the module to be usable by various members of staff other than the default admin account, as well as define which roles or individual users you will be able to login as. After saving the config settings, you will find a page under the Setup menu in the admin called "Switch User". Selecting a user from the list checks via AJAX whether the user has admin access (this is a basic check for the page-edit permission as by default the admin homepage requires page-edit to load the page tree) and will either allow you to redirect to the homepage or back to the admin depending on that check. Download Here Version History 0.0.6 - Initial release

Hi guys I feel certain that when I export field and template data using the built-in tools in the PW admin there must be a way to use this JSON in my own modules as part of the install routine to set up these fields and templates, but I can't figure it out. Any ideas?

Ha, checked those links on Archive.org - they were old links from when we used SMF forums back in 2012 and earlier. It's entirely possible they've been broken the whole time... I'll have a look and see if there are any others in need of an update. EDIT: so it wasn't this forum upgrade that broke them is what I'm getting at - they've been broken for a long time

Yeah, they changed how this worked because you could become friends in the previous one and the other person not have any say in it, whereas in this version it's "followers". You would have thought they'd just change the friends to followers during upgrade but I think that would have meant a possibility of being alerted whenever the person being followed posts something so I can see why they changed it I suppose.

@Doug G It'll just give you desktop notifications (little boxes that pop-up in the bottom right of your screen) whether you've got your browser maximised or minimised. You do still see the same notification icon at the top right of the forums so you can turn them off if you like or turn them on - personal preference really. @flydev I think the idea is to keep it shorter so it fits on even the smallest mobile screens. Technically using the word "hour" make that bit of text wider than the photo above it so they've abbreviated it to be really short.

Wheee, what a lot of replies I'm going to ignore the silliness in the original title and some of the heated replies and just get straight down to answering some things as quickly as possible. Some changes are do-able, others you guys will have to adapt to unfortunately. Whilst forum software can be customised to an extent, my 10+ years managing these beasts has shown time and again that the more you change the more you suffer through even minor upgrades so we'll be changing some things where simple software settings allow and keeping any potentially upgrade-breaking changes to a minimum. TL;DR not everyone is going to get what they wanted, but that's always the case unless you're working for a single client... and sometimes even then it's not guaranteed. Which headlines do you refer to? I just compared to the previous version and there's very little difference - same with the black bars, most of them were there before but all the elements were smaller along with the font size so perhaps they were just less noticeable? The like buttons were also there before, they're just a stronger blue. Q&A forums - the staff are having a discussion about which should remain this way (probably Pro modules where each topic is usually a question) and which shouldn't (probably the main Modules forum where each module has only one topic. I personally think that will resolve the Q&A debate for the most part, and people will use the right forums for the right things (the descriptions for most of them under Community Support say something along the lines of "for asking questions or getting support" so you'd expect 99% of topics to be questions in those places). I think the Q&A forums will probably work well there even though they're a shock to the system as the community can decide to upvote answers in those topics and it will eventually lead to finding the best answers floating towards the top right below the question itself - if this works as it should it makes finding the answers to things much easier and that's got to be a plus for the community, I suggest we just have to give it time and make a few tweaks to which forums should be Q&A forums in the meantime. More on this after we've had our internal discussion. Well... let's have that internal discussion first and then we can let everyone know what the plans are Really not sure what these headlines are that you're referring to? Nothing is particularly dimmed on my screen - can you please post a screenshot so I can be sure there's not some quirky browser/OS-specific CSS issues going on? The announcement was in the News & Announcements > Site Announcements forum, also linked to in the latest blog post. It was about as visible as we could make it As Soma said further down, the forum upgrades are something we're going to have to suffer every few years and there will be some features we'll miss and others we'll love - until someone recreates all of this in ProcessWire we have to keep moving with the times or face getting hacked which would be far worse than the disorientation we're suffering at the moment whilst we iron things out. It liked that pic - it said so in step #423 of the upgrade routine Can you let me know what version of Firefox and Windows you're using? You'll need to be on a recent Firefox version at least. I'm going to ignore the rest of your post and focus on the important things that are coming out of this discussion. I think it's one of those things - the old version had a dedicated mobile skin but a limited feature-set, the new version is responsive but has every feature more or less. I think those who only browse but don't reply on their mobile will be disappointed by it being slower, but those who regularly reply on mobile will hopefully appreciate the more fully-functional aspect. There are some caching options we'll look into to try and speed things up - one area where this software falls down a bit is no easy CDN integration otherwise we could get some of the CSS and JS assets loading a lot quicker for everyone - hopefully there will be a solution for that further down the line. See my earlier comment - can you let me know your OS and browser version please? I added in the panel that shows who's browsing a topic last night. It just wasn't there by default as it's arguable as to whether it adds anything (and it does make the page load marginally slower doing the extra queries, but we're talking fractions of a second - same with all the blocks at the bottom and side of the main forum view actually). This forum has actually had a huge number of features stripped out compared to the last version, behind the scenes at least - complete rewrite (yay, more bugs :D) to support namespaces, PHP7 and get away from legacy junk code that was going to break soon in a future PHP version. They've made an effort in the code to keep it all nicely up to date and more easily updateable (less fragmented in terms of functions in obscure locations etc) so hopefully all future upgrades will run a bit smoother from a purely technical point of view and actually managing it is a lot nicer and easier, though that doesn't directly help you guys browse around day-to-day of course. The main things that have changed on the frontend are the activity streams which promote status updates alongside forum posts. Member status updates were actually in the last version as well, just so hidden in a person's profile they made no sense being there. We do have the ability to change the default activity streams to ONLY include topics, but I'm actually hoping that status updates might make things a bit more social - you can either post a status update in the software or link your Twitter accounts and it's then a doddle to share information that doesn't warrant a topic of its own but might be interesting to other members - same as the previous forums, just with a lot more visibility. You can also turn it off manually in the streams so it's only topics that show up in the feeds. The layout in that section is of course completely different - no denying that. I don't think commercial discussion forums are in a massive battle with social media platforms so much, more with each other. Whilst they might lose the smaller customers to Facebook groups, I've seen the larger customers - the ones who pay the big money to have everything done and customised for them - stick with them through thick and thin because they, like us, value holding onto our data and keeping it with the rest of the information. We've stuck with IPB because it's a) the one I know and b) still has a decent set of features whereas some others are now over-bloated or too lightweight for us in my opinion. Since I'm the one who has to run it I'm sticking with what I know for now. That may change in future, but we'll always want a hosted forum where we can control the content rather than relying on a slow third party service or shipping everything over to Facebook so we'll always be somewhat at the mercy of "what the devs have done this time" when a new version is released. Pretty sure I'm just agreeing with you at this point ceberlin, but thought I'd comment on what I'm thinking anyway On to CSS - it is possible to change a lot but there is likely to be a new site theme coming along in the next few months so I don't want to spend masses of time changing too much and have to do it all again later - we will focus on usability. Most things are pretty much where they were before though, so some of the things you list there are a bit confusing to me to be honest. If you can give me small screenshots highlighting the things you think are not as they were before or need to be improved that would be a great help to me. I think that's actually an error from import what you've shown above. In some forums we had pre-set prefixes as well as tags and it seems to have kept the prefixes but also applied the prefix title as a tag. No doubt I can work out an SQL query to rectify this at some point so there's no repetition and that should fix most of it. Again, the Q&A issues are likely mostly applicable to the modules forum - everywhere else they're applied they could be an improvement if we give them a chance. Q&A functionality is per-forum and can't be applied only to certain topics unfortunately or else that would solve the problem entirely - as such where you're seeing them that's where the forum is set to be a Q&A forum. That was an accident - it turned out someone yesterday was able to start a new topic in there (definitely not a good idea for everyone to be able to do that there! :D) and I over-did the permissions. You should be able to reply now. You can create custom filters on the activity stream, so if you change Unread Content to work exactly how you want you should then only have to move your mouse over the main Activity menu item and then click Unread Content and that would then function more like before, aside from the layout of course. It really isn't that much different. There was a big black bar across the top and all the forum titles were on a dark background. I feel like I'm going a bit crazy here so here's some screenshots for comparison: OLD: NEW: The elements are all a bit bigger so it's going to be a bit darker overall, but otherwise not much different. I also made the sidebar match a bit more rather than spend too much time customising something that's of less importance I think. I think that's just in Q&A forums, right? That sounds like a browser-specific bug - can you let me know OS, browser and version? Thanks! I do remember all this from the first time around, yes, similar discussions took place then. And yes, the exclamation marks, but that's in the past now. @horst technically everyone's right here. In the "View New Topics" link at the top-right of the old forums (now Activity Streams) the titles went to the first UNREAD post. When browsing topics in a forum normally and not using View New Topics they went to the first post AND had the little dot @adrian was getting annoyed with yesterday to go to the first unread post (I've changed this to an eye with a line through it since I think it's more appropriate and noticeable) so in fact the functionality is now exactly as it was. I've just confirmed this is the case by looking at the old forums which are hidden away for reference. Funny how the mind plays tricks on you isn't it? I think the biggest issue was the new streams not going to the latest unread post by default but we should now be mostly back to the original functionality. To be fair, I would have closed the topics if I thought there was a chance editing old posts would screw things up, but the rebuild would have only changed the parts it needed to. That finished within 2.5 hours instead of 6 due to... well... this server being really fast I think, and leaving the forums open made more sense since I had a list of what needed doing and had timed it in the run-up to actually doing it, getting the bit where I had to delete and re-import the fixed posts table down to 5 minutes or less (guessing nobody spotted those few minutes where every bit of post content disappeared ;)). But yeah, there was an initial feeling we should play it much safer and turn it all off, but there was more benefit in leaving it on in the end despite a little slowness for a few hours. This is as fast as it gets now by the way until myself and Ryan get some time to look into caching options, of which there are very few (I miss all the benefits of ProCache :D). Not sure why this would happen - it really shouldn't have. I'll see if anyone else on the main software support forum is reporting similar issues. The emails do definitely need some tweaking. Avatars are certainly a little superfluous in a notification email, I agree! Well that took a long time, but keep the comments coming. I certainly can't guarantee we'll do everything that's requested but the least I can do is listen and read the replies.

Group set up: https://www.fitbit.com/group/22ZNVL

Cool - thanks Craig, I'll likely set one up soon then I'm actually impressed with myself how I'm managing to keep calories on target most of the time (was hopeless prior to this) and am finding seeing my pace per km increase on the same run every few days is a real incentive to keep going. I have only been exercising properly for a couple of weeks, but have lost half a stone already just by dropping the amount I'm eating to more sensible levels (no crash/fad diets here, just better portion sizes and measuring things properly) and the exercise of course can easily cancel out the calorific intake of one of your meals a day. If I was to try and get to more competitive levels or do longer distances I'd have to look more closely at the diet aspect but... well... I'm finding that whilst it can be a chore if you don't log the food as you eat it and spend 10 mins at the end of the day doing it, the stats are quite fascinating over time. I've also hooked up my Fitbit account to Strava as a lot of friends are on Strava but not Fitbit and the runs get ported across automatically. It's basically a social network for runners/cyclists/hikers but I've not looked into it much at all to be honest beyond linking them together.

Just curious as to whether anyone is using a Fitbit? I'm toying with the idea of starting a ProcessWire group if there's interest EDIT: Here's the group: https://www.fitbit.com/group/22ZNVL I got into using one of these because I was (and still am a bit!) overweight. These things with the accompanying app help you reliably* track exercise. So far things are looking good and I'm proof that it's never too late to take up exercise (running and swimming at the moment, not at the same time). *reliably for this kind of technology - things like your heart rate is probably never going to be as accurate as when you're strapped to an ECG machine.