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Very cool!

Hi Noose, This thread, in Google Webmaster Help, addresses your question. JohnMu, a googler, sees it this way: If you go down the Ajax route, as Ryan mentions, you might find this website interesting: https://developers.google.com/webmasters/ajax-crawling/docs/getting-started I hope that helps. Claudio

Hi Wanze, In my opinion, Retina display is the way to go. If you think about it, Apple is rapidly discontinuing their non-Retina products, and app support for this type of display is increasing at a very fast pace. For example, Photoshop and Sublime Text 2 both support Retina displays. With this in mind, I can't help but think that buying a non-retina MBP at this point in time is buying an outdated product. Now, having said that, the first generation of retina MBPs have come with their fair share of problems, mainly to do with image retention issues and lagging problems. The image retention issue seems to be particularly prevalent, as documented here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4034848?start=0&tstart=0 Truth be told, I don't have a Retina MBP, so my exposure to it is limited to my frequent trips to my local Apple store I do have a 2012 27'' iMac and couldn't be happier with it! I hope that helps, and please keep us posted on your final decision! Claudio

Hi roelof, I think Joss is right here. I think you'd be better off by first getting familiar with the system and only then starting to think about the different approaches you could use to build your site with PW. Joss provides a link to an excellent tutorial that will most definitely help you get acquainted with PW. Here are other resources you might find useful: Small Project Walkthrough: a simple and easy to follow tutorial that will teach you the basic concepts behind PW. ProcessWire's Wiki Page: some very useful articles here as well, including the tutorial Joss mentions. A very brief introduction to PW's API: this is a must read. ProcessWire's directory structure: it's important that you read this one, as it will make your life so much easier! ProcessWire's template files: again, a must read. ProcessWire's API index page: make a bookmark of this one and visit frequently! So, there you have it, a nice list of easy-to-follow articles you can read to get intimate with ProcessWire. Once you've gone through that, you will have a much clearer picture of what you can do with PW and how to do it. I hope that helps. Claudio

Hi roelof, Welcome to the forums. ProcessWire is a very flexible and extremely powerful CMS, and I firmly believe it can be used to build all kinds of websites, from simple portfolio sites to highly complex news sites. In my experience, when it comes to PW, sky is the limit! As netcarver mentions, you need to be a little bit familiar with PHP to make the most out of it, but that doesn't necessarily mean you need to learn PHP before starting to use PW. In fact, I've found that using PW is in and of itself a great way of learning PHP. As long as you're able to understand the most basic PHP concepts, I think you can pretty much learn all the rest as you go. If you get stuck somewhere and need help, the community is here to help. So, my advice would be to give PW a try and see first hand what you can do with it. Best of luck. Claudio

Yes, that's an inherent problem of dropdown menus. Frankly, they are a usability nightmare on touch screens, but there're some work arounds that can make them more usable and user-friendly. I've collected some articles that might help you get the menu system sorted. - StackExchange discussion - 'Designing mouse over events to be compatible with touch screens', here - A responsive dropdown navigation menu, here - Make CSS dropdown menus work on touch devices, here - Browser advisory paper - touch actions, here Well, perhaps the easiest thing would be to just not use dropdown menus , but if you have to, well, then you have to . I hope that helps. Claudio

Hi Joss, Thank you for taking the time to develop and share this profile with us. I think this could be very useful for people interested in integrating Twitter Bootstrap with ProcessWire, as it will pave the way for them to do all kinds of things with it. Having said that, and sorry for getting off topic here, I can't help but think that TB, in this particular instance, is getting in the way and forcing you to make certain decisions, like changing the way you plan your pages, rather than making your job easier, which is what's supposed to do. I'm certainly not negating the value of using such tools as TB, but I do believe that, sometimes, as it seems in this case, they are rather counter productive. This is of course just my opinion, and, doubtless to say, I might be completely wrong!

Hi Alex, Nice job you've done with the blog profile! I do get this error "Unable to complete this request due to an error. Error has been logged." when trying to access the 'Archives' page in the blog section. Perhaps something to have a look at.

Great stuff! Very sleek and modern. Beautiful logo as well.

My goodness me! Longest word I've seen in my life, by quite a margin. Now, I have to say I visited Finland some years ago and really liked how Finnish sounds. It was so different to anything else I had been exposed to (language wise), that I simply loved it!

This looks impressive, Ryan, thank you very much for your hard work! I have to agree with the rest, the kind of performance we'll be able to achieve with this module installed is just amazing! ProcessWire just keeps getting better and better!

I think you're right here. Organising local groups, independent of language-specific PW subdomains, on a per country basis seems the way to go. The Textpattern forum example is very relevant and worth considering. It could serve as a source of inspiration for our case. Nah, sorry guys, but my vote has to go for Joomla!

Congrats, Soma, you most definitely deserve it! I can personally say I've learned loads of stuff about ProcessWire and web development in general thanks to your contributions to the forums. Thanks, and keep up the good work!

Hi Soma, I had certainly seen the forum showcase section, but not the other one. I don't know how I missed it! Thanks for pointing it out to me.

Hi all, I've just come across this Twitter conversation: I'm sure this has been discussed before, but hey, don't you guys think it'd be a good idea to have a list featuring websites built with ProcessWire? I think this could be a great selling point, as people unfamiliar with the system could see, at a glance, the kind of results they can expect to get with PW. The Symphony project, for example, has done this beautifully. Well, let's see what you think!

Hi guys, I'm kind of late to the conversation, but all of this sounds very exciting to me. As far as local sites go, I think the best way to go is to set up language-specific subdomains, as this will ensure a consistent identity across the board. One of the problems with setting up individual domains, in my view, is that it's virtually impossible to get hold of the same domains across languages, like 'processwire.de', 'processwire.fi', 'processwire.ch', etc. This would lead to a mess of independent domains that might confuse people. To be honest, I think we should put the emphasis on the languages themselves, not so much in the individual countries. For example, Spanish is the official language of 20 different countries, and we don't necessarily want to have a separate site for each of these countries. Simply having an 'es.processwire.com' subdomain will cater for them all. Just my opinion, though. As for setting up local forums, the danger here is fragmentation, as others have mentioned, and we certainly don't want that. Having said that, the idea of giving non-English speaking people the ability to express their ProcessWire-related ideas, suggestions, concerns, problems,… in their own language in an 'official' ProcessWire forum could be very effective, and shouldn't be underestimated. To lessen the risk of fragmentation, we could perhaps write a script that automatically pulls the most interesting discussions happening in the local sites to the main ProcessWire forum. We could do this by for example looking at threads with the label 'Hot'. We could then add a 'From around the world' section and within this language-specific subsections to the main PW forum, where all these interesting conversations would be included. It would then be just a matter of setting up automatic Google translations (not ideal but gets the job done) for this. I don't know, just a couple of ideas to throw on the table! By the way, I'd be more than happy to contribute to the Spanish local site/subdomain/forum/etc. I can provide translations, keep an eye on a future forum, manage contributors, etc. Claudio

You're welcome!

Reading your comments, Pete, this article comes to mind.

Very interesting points here, Pete. I think the short tutorials on slightly more technical bits that you propose will not only help end-users but also less experienced designers/developers that want to start using the system but really don't know how. I think this would be less intimidating to them than, say, going to the API documentation and start getting ideas from there. This leads us to your next point, the idea of developing a more beginner friendly blog profile. I think the current blog profile is fantastic, and I've personally learned a ton of stuff from it, like how to neatly use functions to organise your code and make it more easily maintainable, best practices, etc. Having said that, I think it's far too intimidating for beginners, so having an easier alternative sounds like an excellent idea. I personally have some theories on this, but I'm gonna keep them to myself for the time being!

Thank you for this, DaveP, a very interesting talk indeed!

Hey guys, If the time is right, I'd be happy to join you up there in the north. The closest I've ever got to Manchester was this one time I went to Old Strafford to visit the stadium, so this could be an opportunity to explore the city with some knowledgeable people, pub wise that is. Haha, nice memories of Manuel! One of our English teachers back in Spain used to make us watch episodes of the Fawlty Towers with I don't know what purpose. She claimed it was to get us acquainted with the British accent. I know. Anyway, I certainly had fun with Manuel and his madness.

Hi raydale, Welcome back! Yes, I've faced this problem before, particularly with WordPress users, as they seem to find WP easy to use, and trying to convince them to move from a system they feel comfortable with to a new system they have to learn is tough. Normally, what I do, is present them with a list of the benefits they will get if they make the switch. I also provide them with some initial training on how to get started with ProcessWire, highlighting the key points and how-tos. Once I show them how PW works and how it relates to the way WP works, they generally feel more confident in their ability to get along with the new system. Claudio

I'm glad you found ProcessWire! It definitely is a good alternative and, as you dig deeper, you'll find yourself liking the system more and more. This is a plus without a doubt, at least in my mind.

I'm happy to see this thread has fostered some interesting discussions. I'd like to clarify what my intention was when I started this thread. All I wanted to do was share my enthusiasm for ProcessWire and to discuss with you how the PW community, as a whole, could benefit from having EE people coming over to explore the system we've all come to love so much. I think this thread is an example of the interesting discussions that could come out of that interaction. Hopefully, this and other discussions will blossom into something tangible, concrete we can all benefit from. I also want to point out that I have nothing against EllisLab or EE, in fact, I've briefly used EE in the past and, in general, liked the system a lot. You guys have made some fabulous points throughout this discussion and there's no need for me to repeat what has already been eloquently expressed, but there's something Joss said that I really liked: That's it, isn't it? ProcessWire is here to help us create websites, better, and it does a fantastic job at doing so. It's like the great football (soccer) players like Messi, they make it look so easy you think you could do it. Don't know what I'm talking about? Try to build what you're building without ProcessWire and you'll see! ProcessWire does that, make us look like the world-class designers and developers we all are, right?

This post has been useful to me beyond belief, guys! Just to let you know all your efforts and suggestions are much appreciated!