Is there a lack of proper tutorials?

[Boost]

Hi,

I get the impression that we're missing a "proper" tutorial here. In my opinion, what we have here are bits and bytes that are out of date. It would be nice to have a "complete" and updated tutorial on how to build a "real" website. What are your opinions?

Cheers,
B

[flydev]

5 hours ago, Boost said:

What are your opinions

I still use 2012 code from time to time, it make me also smile when it happen. About the tutorials, a real website, it depend what you call a real website. (I am not being rude, and I get your point, but I think that the tutorials need be done by the community, maybe we should follow an official guidelines).

For example, for me, you would need to put your hand in Vite, Svelte, and how to mix them with ProcessWire to get data which mean to build a module that will inject custom headers, or use an internal API, and make yo call ProcessWire Headless cms things. For others devs, it could be other stack / frameworks, and we all know there is a ton of them. So you end up in what PW is the best => freedom, and I think IMO that it will be hard to satisfy everyone. ?

For beginners, there is some good up-to-date doc, like https://processwire.com/blog/posts/starting-with-the-blank-profile/ and also tutorials - https://processwire.com/docs/tutorials/ - and for a real damn good example real website, the update profile SkyScraper which can be visited there http://demo.processwire.com/ , downloaded, dissected and modified.

Maybe, again, the real need is to organize better what's already exist.

[pwired]

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I get the impression that we're missing a "proper" tutorial here. In my opinion, what we have here are bits and bytes that are out of date. It would be nice to have a "complete" and updated tutorial on how to build a "real" website. What are your opinions?

There are dozens of quality tutorials and Processwire strategies explained under the Processwire Docs and then there are dozens of more very good tutorials on the internet. So either you are disconnected from Processwire reality or don't know how to use Google. But usually the real issue is that Processwire has unlimited power and freedom under the hood, confusing old habits of making websites. Dive in the Processwire api and make websites with it and many of the questions will melt away. We are here to help you go along.

[Gideon So]

Hi @Boost

I have mentioned this many times. This tutorial from Ryan should get you started.

Gideon

[Boost]

14 hours ago, flydev ?? said:

For beginners, there is some good up-to-date doc, like https://processwire.com/blog/posts/starting-with-the-blank-profile/ and also tutorials - https://processwire.com/docs/tutorials/ - and for a real damn good example real website, the update profile SkyScraper which can be visited there http://demo.processwire.com/ , downloaded, dissected and modified.

 

Thanks for the links, specially the starting with the blank profile one. I didn't know that. The SkyScrapper would be enough, but it doesn't use the Markup regions ?

[Boost]

6 hours ago, Gideon So said:

Hi @Boost

I have mentioned this many times. This tutorial from Ryan should get you started.

Gideon

It's a nice one, but no markup regions ?

[flydev]

43 minutes ago, Boost said:

It's a nice one, but no markup regions ?

I was sure I had already saw an update made by @ryan to make SkyScrapers using markup-region (https://weekly.pw/issue/129/). The demo I linked previously is made with it.

There you go: https://github.com/ryancramerdesign/skyscrapers2 ?

[Boost]

Thank you!

[Boost]

13 minutes ago, flydev ?? said:

I was sure I had already saw an update made by @ryan to make SkyScrapers using markup-region (https://weekly.pw/issue/129/). The demo I linked previously is made with it.

There you go: https://github.com/ryancramerdesign/skyscrapers2 ?

Wait ? the issue 129 is about processwire 3.0.39, but the page https://processwire.com/docs/front-end/output/markup-regions/ says we need ProcessWire 3.0.61. Are we talking about the same thing?

[flydev]

@Boost I think yes, I never used markup-region, maybe pw-3.0.61 introduced new api functions or markup-regions things which are required from there.

https://processwire.com/blog/posts/processwire-3.0.39-core-updates/

 

Edit: I read the ProcessWire 3.0.61 core update, I think I am missing some details as I don't use this strategy, but clearly, the region strategy seem to be introduced on this update yes. Let's wait others users to give us more details in this thread.

[szabesz]

11 hours ago, Gideon So said:

This tutorial from Ryan should get you started.

This is a nice showcase to demonstrate that even one of the oldest tutorials are still relevant today. ProcessWire is evolving in a way that basics never change and even backwards compatibility can be relied upon. Sure bugs come and go, but there is no complex software without bugs.

Anyway, my recommendation form 2019:

Not to mention:

https://www.pwtuts.com/tags/

And some up to date tudorials from 2022:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvp33AwVHgFKgsrGaLh-ANg/videos

Hope this helps.

[szabesz]

5 hours ago, Boost said:

but it doesn't use the Markup regions

This resources list might also help you to get started:

https://processwire.com/talk/topic/26720-using-echo-with-delayed-layout/#comment-221298

 

[jrg]

I cannot vouch for any of this (just getting started with PW myself), but those are some links that I saved for future studying:
https://www.pwtuts.com/
https://webdesign.tutsplus.com/categories/processwire
https://mauricius.dev/tags/#processwire
https://processwire.dev/
https://web.archive.org/web/20170816032544/https://abdus.co/blog/creating-a-simple-and-configurable-module-for-processwire/

Edit:
Removed link to processwire-recipes(dot)com, as the website now links to an unsafe (adware / scareware) website...

Edited January 8, 2023 by jrg
processwire-recipes now seems to be unsafe

[bernhard]

@jrg don't forget processwire.rocks ??