Joss

Ah, you have just answered a question I was asking myself. Though I think initially, I will possibily want to avoid allowing multiple selections. I was thinking that by using you clever select system, whether you could in affect have a primary category (that would be the first on the list) and secondary categories. Having said that, I think you can get too clever with this sort of referencing. Once I get my head round this it should turn into another wiki entry, me thinks. Though, once again, it will need to be "this is one way of doing this," because I bet there are other ideas out there! I will run off and break my server - I mean, go an be constructive Joss

Okay, haven't read the entire thread so I may have this completely upside down, but isn't it easier to have multiple Site folders with the first one as a default? So, in each subsequent site it will use the templates in its own folder if they exists, if not it uses the templates from the default folder. Same for modules and admin template. There would have to be some exceptions, probably, so you didn't end up with the head from your own site1 folder and the footer from the default site folder, for instance. But it might make deleting sites easier if it is just removing their entire site folder. Also means that they could be transferred to another installation, I would think ... somehow.

Ta Soma! I had forgotten about your simple nav module. I will play with that also. I need to Twiiter Bootstrapperize (!) it, but that should't be a problem. I have just had a music rewrite come in, so I need to go and do that first, unfortunately. Joss

HI JanPaul, welcome to the forum! What do you mean by a review module? One for writing reviews or for another purpose? Joss

Thanks Matthew - much nice to read now! I tend to use drop-downs using the page field, but it is essentially the same thing. I add the page field to both my article listing page template and my article template so that I can create a listing page that uses the same categories as the articles do, if you see what I mean. I am still unsure what to do about nested categories, however. This is really about SEO. If I have an article under pet food that is a sub category of animals, then it is healthy to have the url as ./animals/pet-food/article There is possible a trick about listing parents here somewhere since the animals category (which is actually a page of course) is the parent of pet-food. I need to get my site started and artificially add this so I can see what is happening. Also, reading your post, I might not go the multiple category route, but rather go for single categories and additional tags. That might be a much better way of cross linking articles. I know that when I have used multiple categories in WordPress it can end up messy. Joss

Thanks Matthew - that covers some of it at least. Can you repost your post because it is littred with <br>s all over the place.

Morning Folk! Just sitting here pondering the world as I am just starting to rebuild my sadly neglected portfolio site (http://www.sanglier.co.uk). Currently in Joomla with the Seblod CCK extension, it has always been buggy and I lost interest in putting much content in it - stupid really. Any way to cut a boring story down to size, I was thinking about categories. I know how to create the idea of categories with pages and using the pages field to associate them together in various way, but I haven't the foggiest how I can do nested categories or relate the categories to URLs. So, for instance, if I have a category called "tech" I would want any article in that category to have the url sanglier.co.uk/tech/myarticle But if it were in a sub category called pw then I would want the URL to be sanglier.co.uk/tech/pw/myarticle I know this can happen with just using children, but the advantage of using categories is that I can have a separation between the menu layout and the article layout and the possibility of an article belonging to more than one category (if I can work out how that would work!) Any hints and tips from the great and the good? Joss (PS: Sorry for the "granny sucking eggs" explanation of the problem, but I am always aware now that it might not just be experienced users who read these questions and so I feel I have a responsibility to be very clear ... now I am really sounding like the old bear - damn!)

Try this: http://wiki.processwire.com/index.php/Select_Field It isn't a complete article, but it should give enough info

I know it seems a long way off, but outside my house in June we have the Stony Stratford "Folk on the Green" - sort of a mini Glastonbury with only a thousand or so people (maybe more, it gets packed) https://www.facebook.com/groups/230311870317688/photos/ And it is free - sort of the music version of Open Source. Various places to stay round the town - could have a meet up on the Saturday and then the Folk on the Green on the Sunday (it is only one day) Depending on how many people - if only a few, we can do the meet in my small garden. If lots, a couple of the pubs have function rooms we can hire. All a bit vague I know, but I throw it into the mix as an idea. Edit - the date this year will be Sunday June 9th

Oh, I thought the entire forum was a snippet forum, with some extra posts thrown in as a kind of disguise...

It was a long time ago! It is easy to forget how old that film is. However, the same comapny did get the gig for recording the voices for the feature film years later (after I left, I should add). It was a tiny little studio held together with string, more or less. But the voice sound was okay. At the same studio we got the job of going through EVERYTHING that Gerry Anderson had every made, finding the best prints and re-syncing the audio from all the language versions. So, that is Thunderbirds, Supercar, Fireball XL5, Captain Scarlet and the rest .... By the end of it I hated puppets! I should add that I also did all the voice recordings for Postman Pat - the original two series. Those were made by Ivor Wood who was the animator behind Paddington and the Magic Roundabout. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivor_Wood When Nick Park heard that I did work for Ivor, he just thought it was amazing - to people like Park, Ivor Wood was king. Ivor was also an absolute gentleman and a pleasure to work for. We did 34 episodes (I think) over 20 years. It takes a long time to do stop animation! When he retired and we ran out of stories I got given a Postman Pat tie. Strangely that was a really nice gift and I still have it.

oooooh.... now that is bad karma! On the upside, you wont have any boring gaps in your weekend schedule...

Martijn Having spent the first 25 years of my career as a recording engineer working in both advertising and music, I relate to that on so many levels that I just cannot begin to count them Absolutely precious! Joss Edit: Probably should clarify my past a little bit (though terribly incomplete): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0762708/

Ryan That is a good post and makes a lot of sense. When I moved over to PW a couple of months ago it was through recommendation because I was finding various platforms frustrating. It was a big jump for me since I am not a natural coder and far more of a writer and editor. Interestingly enough, I have never had any sense that this project is aimed at anyone except web developers/designers that need a tool to achieve a purpose. That could be anyone - those that have used a lot of the CMSs or those that have used none. ProcessWire would suit both camps amicably, to be honest, without needing to be highly competitive. My real job has always sat me right in the middle of the media, advertising and drama world and I thought I was used to darlings and luvvies pouting about each other. I have to admit, the amount of drama queens I have run into in the CMS world has been a bit of a shock! On that basis alone, ProcessWire has been wonderfully refreshing in its professional and non-confrontational approach. Almost controversial, I would say! Right, back to work everyone! (In my case that means finding a couple of country singers in Nashville who are up for a challenge!) Joss

Ah, I can think of a few large software companies that have done exactly that over the years.....

Hi Ryan This is useful stuff that could apply to a lot of situations I suspect If you ever get some time, a small tutorial would be really useful - if you want to do it as quick bullet points I will be happy to write it up. Joss

Okay, my brother was into this book at one stage, though I never read it. Something about the relationship (or not) between religion and science as philosophies or something? I will have to go look it up, me thinks.

I am no coder, but I imagine you could list all the files in a folder and retrieve them with PhP. You could then store them in an array and hopefully sort them by date or alphabetically - depending how they are titled or how you are identifying blocks of text within the files. But, this is a huge array if there are a lot of them and I am not sure how that would all pan out. You do the same with an image gallery, if you think about it, where the images are stored in folders. But even then, if you are dealing with a large number of images, it can be more efficient to list them in a database and then retrieve what you need specifically. Maybe you can generate a one-off "index" of files in a folder and then use that to then retrieve a specific file - that is sort of working in the same way as a database does. But by the time you do all that, you might as well have imported all the files, to be honest - if that can be automated, then it would take very little time, and once it is done, that is that!

Yep, back in the late 1960s early 1970s - It might have been in black and white because my parents were a little late in getting colour.

"When others start writing posts as long as mine, then I know it is time to change subject." - Joss 2013 (But generally agree with all the above )

I think it is always difficult, but quite natural to talk about the competition. However, the nature of the internet makes it rather more complicated than before. In the "old world" (which I find I miss more and more) this conversation would have taken place down the pub (that is a "bar" to you foreigners!), would have been full of idle speculation and pure BS and that is where it would have stayed. Now, of course, not only is the conversation "published" but is also searchable - and therefore it is good that this conversation is congenial. I have never used EE, and since my main income is not from web design it is unlikely that I will ever do so. I have seen screen shots of the admin and it looks exactly like the one I had on my own-designed Dreamweaver based CMS back in 2001 (A web oddity). However, since that was only ever used by 20 financial journalists I can more or less guarantee that none of the EE people ever saw it, so it is coincidence, nothing more. At the end of the day, you should never design a UI to be "different" you should design it to be workable, and by that criteria, in the end everyone's UI is going to be pretty similar, I suspect. There are four things that make a good application: Strong, under-the-hood design Easy to use and logical interface (so, probably not designed by a coder! ) Versatility to allow the client to achieve what they require and to get their true money's worth. A good design team that works to produce a strong, competitive product rather than achieve some sort of philosophical goal (even if the product is ultimately free) But there is one other aspect that sometimes gets overlooked - the application must have a clearly defined market. Being all things to all people can seem very glamorous and noble when chatting round the water cooler, but if that becomes the driving force behind the product, the result can be confused, messy and fragmented. I think ProcessWire has a clear goal, that is what makes it attractive to me, and I think it is why (with a bit of a push) it can have mass market appeal. That goal: Create a website. Because for 99% of the time, that is exactly what people will want to do with it - create a website with 'n' number of pages, all pretty similar with some bits of dancing and fun attached. Not wonderfully headline making, but the practical day to day job of business website design. ProcessWire does have the ability to address far more complex needs too, of course, and the fact that it can be hooked into other systems (or they be hooked into it, perhaps) means that it is wonderfully extendible for the knowledgeable designer. But that does not distract from the basic fact that it is a great way to produce a solid, secure, well balanced website and I think as long as that is kept front and centre, it will do well. As for the competition? Well, as I said at the beginning, it is natural to talk about them, and it is wise if one sees the competition getting something wrong to learn from that - there is nothing more idiotic than repeating someone else's mistakes - but in the end, the real focus has to be in getting one's own project right, whatever the competition are up to. As Matthew Scheneker knows, I like to be optimistic about the future of a project and get very grumpy when my optimism is undermined by idiotic, egotistical, idealogical battles that have nothing to do with good business or good R&D. And strangely, that is what I have been enjoying most over the last couple of months - a developer and a supportive community that has a healthy and realistic "can-do" approach that is of real benefit to the users. On that basis, the fact that ProcessWire is also a very good and solid tool is a very sweet bonus! Joss (PS: Years ago I had a very interesting bit of advice from Victor Kiam who was a client. He said that when a project is your baby, then keep it as your baby, keep control and don't share it. Once it gets to a size where you have to share it or you are getting a little weary of it, sell it completely and go and find a new baby. )

Upgrading forums always reminds me of servicing my first car when I was a teen - I always ended up with more screws than I seem to have places to put them. I nearly blew up the Mark II Escort GT I had. (1300cc of raw lettuce leaf) So, I will be listening out to see if the forum starts rattling or pinking or something. The timing always seems to out a little when you first restart it .....!

hmm, I saw the Star Trek series first time round. For some reason, that is suddenly very depressing....

HI Crssp It does sound like a nightmare waiting to happen and probably needs a bit of a unified approach. There is a good chance that it is backed by a database - depending on how old it is and how much money was thrown at it, it might be MySQL or it might be Microsofts solution - very powerful, but at a painful licencing cost! It will be interesting to see what your IT people say.

Years ago I had a similar problem and a friend knocked up about 20 lines of Perl that did the job. We were helped by the fact that the text files had a very precise layout, though, which he could get the script to recognise. Joss