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It appears the notifications on mobile when you use the PWA feature are in InvisionCommunity version 5 (we're on the latest 4.x branch) so that's coming later™ - major version upgrades in this forum software are usually complete rewrites 😅

Hi all, if you log in since Friday and click the Notifications (bell) icon in the forums then you should see this message which allows the forums to send alerts for messages and topics you are subscribed to via browser notifications. There is also PWA (Progressive Web App) feature that I've enabled so you may also see "Install to Home Screen" as an option for both Android and iOS. If the PWA works as intended, you will have an app icon on your device and, I think, notification badges should appear there too, so if you're like me and have had email notifications switched on for followed content you can edit your notification settings and change this to Notification List I think. Apologies for the vagueness but the forum docs are a little unclear in places. It is all optional and if you don't want to use either feature you don't have to of course.

Thanks - yes I forgot about PageGrid.

I think having seen Kirby CMS' blocks editor last week that that sort of UI with the JSON storage behind the scenes could be the way to go. I think some mashup of the JSON storage from one of those editors, Kirby's UI and the way the Pro Custom Fields module has its fields configured would be the perfect blend and then get rid of the need for Repeater Matrix for a lot of things. Some limitations would be that you have to store images/files somewhere but it's easy enough I guess to just have a field for each that acts as a bucket and the block editor references them. If the UI was advanced enough they could be there but hidden or something. I'll see if I can track down that other discussion - sounds interesting, thanks Brendon!

Dev directory issues are still on me sorry - I'll point it to a different page for now but I do still plan to get it rebuilt (as I have done for years - again my bad). It keeps falling foul of the classic "too much to do" but will get a temp page on the PW site signposting folks elsewhere for now I think.

I'm dredging up an old topic here but had a need to go and look for something like this - not for a ProcessWire field - and ended up deciding TipTap looked like the best bet. It also turns out that Invisioncommunity (the forum software in use here) also uses TipTap: https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/478170-invision-community-5-the-all-new-editor/ (so expect this forum to use that editor when we finally upgrade to v5 as there is no choice when upgrading forums unlike the unlimited choice you get in ProcessWire 😅). Now I am interested in a TipTap field for ProcessWire for a few article-heavy websites where we have mostly text but sometimes need to add in an image, a CTA block (some editable per article, some locked), image/text in a column with some settings and as far as I can tell TipTap allows for all of this because you can just build any widget you want and make them drag-droppable. Before I get too far down this rabbit hole has anyone investigated this sort of thing since 2019? Searching the word "editor" on the forum naturally returns a lot of results, many of which not actually related to alternative rich text editors I'm basically interested in the simplicity of having just one editor versus repeater matrix pages where it's not technically needed a lot of the time. I did also look at editor.js which looked really cool but that one doesn't seem to have been updated in years and TipTap is both open source and has some big customers so will still be here in a few years. my brain got confused because some folders were last changed 2 years ago but it is still in development and also looks good - possibly better in fact as the demo on the homepage is already more the way I envisioned.

@Mike Rockett is here a way to arbitrarily hook into the sitemap build process and exclude pages? I have a specific scenario where it would need to be a hook to skip pages, not a manual list or specific template.

Yes I was going to say there would be a lot of backspaces for core classes but you seem to have thought of that. I'll check this out as soon as I can - thanks! Any maintaining that many different versions - well done! I think that would break my brain 😄

It's only after a TracyDebugger upgrade it struggles, so it downloads the zip via the ProcessWire Upgrade module but because there are a lot of files in TracyDebugger the FileCompiler takes a while to scan and times out or runs out of memory (I forget which but timeout seems more likely). Only happens during upgrade but times out because of the network chatter (for want of a better phrase) with the EFS mount. And then it doesn't complete the upgrade basically so you have to do it via CLI. The reason for EFS in a clustered setup is that nodes (servers) in an auto-scaling group come and go as you refresh things or as the instances increase/decrease automatically in number due to traffic demands, so having the sites on local EBS on one node doesn't work at all as they'd need to maintain their own copies of all files in sync for the sites on that cluster. So in this setup you put the sites on EFS (essentially a very fast network drive) so all nodes in the cluster have apache run sites from there and it's definitely more than fast enough for normal operations, just slow for things like FileCompiler when there are a lot of files to check when compiling a module. It checks them all whether they individually have a namespace or not as it has to decide which ones need compiling so TracyDebugger with this many files makes it try and do "too much" (a relative term, I know) in this setup. I like the idea with the backwards compatibility, but is there not stuff in newer versions of Tracy that isn't compatible with PW 2.x now anyway? I don't remember if PW 2.x even supported PHP 8 - probably not much beyond that anyway - so there may be some benefit to a version that only works with 3.x at some point. Just that usually adding the namespace to modules is relatively painless (though I've had some occasions where it was a little less straightforward I'll admit 😄) and then it's one less bit of overhead when keeping modules up to date. A selfish request to be sure, but maybe I'm not the only one? 😅

Hi Adrian, My search-foo is weak today so this may have been discussed to death but I couldn't find anything specific. Is there a reason why TracyDebugger module isn't in the ProcessWire namespace? The reason I ask is it compiles otherwise when file compiler is on - which for me is most of the time as there are modules I use that are not in a namespace (I am now religiously disabling template compilation though - just a few years late to the party on that one 😄). On an AWS setup where the site files are on an EFS mount Tracy is the one module that can take ages as it's a little slower to do this on a network drive. I've even had the updater module in ProcessWire fail to update Tracy and often just do it via CLI and it seems to be entirely down to PW having to compile the module. I realise AWS setups like this may still be a bit niche in this day and age but now, having mastered AWS pretty thoroughly (auto-scaling groups - my last bit I really needed to learn - are amazing!), I wouldn't go back. Feel free to point me to where this has already been discussed - as I say my searches returned bits and pieces around namespaces but not this exact thing. (Also I've been away from these forums for too long so if anyone else likes to geek out about AWS setups maybe we can have a chat somewhere on the forums or maybe there's already one I'm missing. I miss 2012-14(ish) where I was on here every day).

Re. toggles I think the iOS way of doing toggles is the most understandable as lack of colour is "inactive" in this case and one colour for the "on" state - preferable not red, or if you do choose red as your primary theme colour at least a simple way to override that in CSS. I've not really looked at the new theme yet but do primary action buttons still have a separate class to secondary? I was quite used to overriding a bunch of stuff on the current admin theme - probably more than was intended - via admin.less so I'll have to take a peek at some point.

Something else to add - I think people maybe don't know things like this exist either. Not sure how best to explain it but since there's no metadata for SEO that would easily match "I lost my page data" with a module called "page edit restore" I'm not sure how easily people would find the module. Google obviously does a good job: https://www.google.com/search?q=processwire+module+to+prevent+data+loss&rlz=1C1ONGR_en-GBGB989GB989&oq=processwire+module+to+prevent+data+loss&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigAdIBCDUyMjBqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 But if you type "data loss" into the search on ProcessWire it doesn't return this module (seems to return a lot of things other than that though). There's probably an argument there for someone to go through and add more search terms that don't necessarily relate to a category to make some modules easier to find I think. Any maybe based on my earlier thoughts, a way to categorise modules as suitable for specific types of site (article/blog etc) as well as by the usual categories.

@ryan I know you asked in the blog post about whether this should be in the core or not and there have only been two replies on the post and not much discussion aside from that (unless I missed a thread somewhere), I think it should go in the core. Like you said you only realise you need it when something goes wrong and recently a staff member lost an hour's work to some scenario or other. I've also done it myself from time to time but keep forgetting this module is here. In my opinion, if it's low overhead it should be in the core and turned on by default. If we're uncomfortable with the idea of modules being installed by default, perhaps the installer should make suggestions after installation - like "suggested modules for different types of site". Anything article/blog related should then suggest this module. I do forget certain modules exist too, like this one has existed for 2 years and I forgot. It would be lovely if the Modules part of the PW admin could be overhauled to easier find things from the directory by category or some sort of search like WP/Craft etc does it. Not saying their implementation is perfect but feels like it would take a little hassle out of it by making things searchable and 1-click installable from the PW admin. I'm sure others have discussed that in the past so maybe also a way to suggest features and vote for things too? The forum software can handle polls easily but I'm getting off topic now.

Perfect thank you!

Hi all, With CKEditor there was a way to have a stylesheet to change the style of things inside the editor. Is there a way of having a CSS file for that in for the TinyMCE fields? I know you can do some of this in the settings, but it's a bit restrictive when you want to use SVG and advanced CSS selectors. I have had a few occasions where clients want to have the styles in the editor match the site exactly and for some lists we've used SVG for list bullets etc and it's just easier to match up with a CSS file.

Ryan - it was great to meet you and Jan in person finally after 12 years 😊 That was a fantastic trip with a great group of people through some really interesting locations. We were pretty lucky with the weather too!

I think for mine what I'll need to do is a diff between the last unaltered source code I have and my code to play "spot the difference" then I can write it in a doc and send it to you. Some were improvements that might be beneficial to all, others were workarounds for very specific things... and others still were files written for you but only for my project so sounds like a bit of a nightmare to update without losing anything (hence why I've been putting it off if I'm honest). I'll need to get it done this month at any rate so I'll let you know. At least when I have the doc I'll also know what to check for on each update.

@kongondo I am still on 008 (well as you know somewhere between 8 and 9 😅) - should I go through 009 to get to 010? I'm thinking probably yes - if it enables me to better understand all the changes with the amount of custom tweaks I have on my site and make sure they all get re-applied.

Sounds and looks fantastic.

Ah man I know what you mean - a long time ago (2012-14 maybe) I was here daily and I probably need to hang around here using the time I normally waste reading the news which is way less healthy for my brain. Or tapping away on other nonsense on my phone for hours.

I think you're right, and some things like Robin's module there are definitely things that could benefit from being in the core as it just makes sense - @ryan please do take a look at this one as it's incredibly useful to visually see how the fields will flow as well as in tabs etc and would be nice if it was in the core too as I don't think it would add much to it but add a lot of benefit to folks who launch sites regularly. This is a bit of a tangent but talking about mental health is less taboo nowadays and I'm sure someone else here will relate - having recently been diagnosed with ADHD I tend to let myself off the hook a bit more now with my forgetfulness. I used to beat myself up about it but the fact is that something needs to be deeply engrained into my day-to-day work to remember it so modules that might help me with setup at the start of a project like TemplateFieldWidths are long forgotten by the end of it ? It's also why I can write PHP and build big projects but cannot hang onto the terminology at all. Like people talk about closures and my brain can rarely remember what "operand" means some days but I can write it all... just the labels on my internal glossary/filing system aren't stuck on very well and keep falling off it feels like. I spent until I was 43 amazed at how people can learn stuff and retain the knowledge so well. I'm very thankful to be pretty good with computers and good enough as a developer that I can do this for a living and live pretty well.

Ah so that's why this all felt so familiar! I remember using that one a while back on a site and then forgot all about it - thanks Robin for that one and to Ryan for improvements to the core field widths.

Ah yes and it's always fun when you migrate from WP to PW or any other ecommerce platform and have a million redirects to do for pointless tags from WP etc ? And even then you have to deal with the fact it used to be a WP site so bots are still always spamming old WP URLs and plugins trying to find a way in. Lots of fun.

Very nice! Only other thing I would add is maybe use hidpi variants on the PNGs too as my monitor is 1.5x normal DPI and they look a little fuzzy and possibly fuzzier still on fancier 4k screens. I enjoyed the honest pricing - it's been a bit of a journey these past few years to realise ecommerce often should start at that price point due to time involved. It's never particularly quick to set up and in my (limited) experience there will always be enough requests for stuff that's not "out of the box" to more than justify it. (Disclaimer: of course, pricing is different around the world but those figures didn't strike me as anything other than sensible).

It's actually sort of on the list for the projects we work on together Ryan, just I think the client is talking to me about it rather than give you another chunk of work to think about. Might be worth us discussing it next week.