PHP Hosting

[nurkka]

Today, my shop provider, where I am hosting a dozen PHP websites (mostly ProcessWire and some Wordpress), announced that they will give up PHP hosting. It always was really reliable and we had no downtime at all in nearly 10 years.

So, now I am searching for a new webhosting. With all that legal stuff like GDPR, I think it has to be in europe, because my clients are from Germany, Netherlands and Austria. And it must be very fast and reliable, and PHP must be configurable, so that I can raise memory limit, upload filesize, post max variables etc. to a decent maximum.

Which hosting providers would you currently recommend?

[diogo]

Hetzner is quite cheap and reliable, and they make it easy to change PHP configurations. I also like their transparency with prices and communication. The control panel is admittedly not very attractive or intuitive, but we can't have it all, can we? 🤷

[millipedia]

We've been using Cloudways for a while now and they've been good for us. Not as cheap as Hetzner but they include some useful hosting management ( git deployment, staging environments, Let's Encrypt etc). And just being to duplicate sites at the click of a button is frankly great.

Shout out to Krystal as well if you want a more traditional cPanel setup with email. I'm sure someone in this forum put me on to them -  they've worked well for us as well.

[Sanyaissues]

@nurkka try  amazon lightsail  with your favorite Linux flavor (they gave you 3 months free for you to play) and install Webmin for server administration. It is an easy and cheap way to live under amazon infrastructure. Or the same but with Heztner with a cpx31 or cpx41.

[zoeck]

Just have a Look at https://all-inkl.com/en/

I have been there for many years and am extremely satisfied.
The admin panel (“KAS”) looks a bit old-fashioned, but it does what it's supposed to.

The only disadvantage (if there is one) is that there is only IPv4 and no IPv6.

The support is extremely fast and competent if a problem occurs, even at night!

[nurkka]

Thanks for your suggestions!

@zoeck I thought if one has a IPv4 (as long as there are any left) everything works fine? As I don't know much about the implications of IPv6 - can it be a disantvantage to not have it?

[zoeck]

3 hours ago, nurkka said:

I thought if one has a IPv4 (as long as there are any left) everything works fine?

That's right 😉 Normally, every Internet connection should support IPv4

[wbmnfktr]

There are several hostings I use:

1. webgo - for about 6 years now for medium traffic but important projects. You can access everything via SSH, have Cron/CronLight, and some domains included. You can add external domains without problem and use them there. A feature almost noone else offers for free nowadays anymore. In case a client doesn't have hosting, I send them to webgo most of the time.
    
2. Hostinger - yeah, it's something similar to Dreamh*st and such, but the price for a 4 year contract was super cheap and I can test new projects there. They have CI/CD, SSL, SSH, and whatever. Features are plenty, performance is okay most of the time.
    
3. Hetzner (new) - needed a bit more oomph for a recent project and went with the CX22 vserver, installed Coolify and some other things, and everything works absolutely fine. Nothing to worry about even in case the traffic spikes or multiplies again.

 

I really enjoy webgo because everything just works, I can put a lot of projects into my Business Plan there and add external domains without problems. It's my go to choice for email hosting (not for sending newsletters and such!).

Hostinger is cheap and you can easily put 20-30 projects/proof-of-concepts on there to see if they are viable and move later on.

Hetzner involves more work but the moment you enable auto-updates and things like that it should be ok to let it run. Hetzner is also great for Campfire or other self-hosted chat/messenger instances.

[nurkka]

Thanks again for the great suggestions! All-Inkl, WebGo and (not so much, but also) Hetzner are now definitely on my list. Regarding All-Inkl, I only heard positive feedback over the years - never any negative comments!

I must admit, that I was so curious about Mittwald's new mStudio UI and the proSpace hosting, that I now clicked the smallest proSpace lite hosting for my first ProcessWire project that I have to migrate. Fortunately, I can always switch later, because I have no domains or email accounts in those project(s).

The mStudio offers a CLI tool, where one can e.g. add an SSH account remotely from one's own shell - and a lot of other things, like creating databases etc. I think that's really great and feels like a gamechanger in the same league as DDEV and @bernhard 's RockShell and RockMigrations. Since I discovered how much faster one can work by using DDEV, shell scripts and bernhard's modules, that CLI feature really fits great into my new workflow.

I hope the Mittwald proSpace hosting also is realiable and not so expensive in the end, when I have to switch to production 🙂 

[bernhard]

16 minutes ago, nurkka said:

Regarding All-Inkl, I only heard positive feedback over the years - never any negative comments!

There you have it: For me the experience was terrible 😄 But I have been using there services years ago. I can only remember having had troubles when deploying applications because they had some weird permission setups. At least that was weird to me back then. I might judge differently nowadays. But I'm happy with Hetzner (for VPS hosting).