bartelsmedia Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Input fields can be checked for correct email syntax. Would be nice if it additionally could check the email against a local database of disposable email address domains, e.g. https://github.com/FGRibreau/mailchecker/blob/master/list.json The disposable email domain database should be selfhosted to avoid any privacy issue (if a legit domain would be transmit to 3rd party). Ideally, Processwire would auto-pull database updates in intervals. Hot or not? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieMackJames Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Great idea, also for use with the soon expected promailer module. Here is a pdf with a list of disposable domains disposable-email-domains.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireWire Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I always prefer an API when available to keep the information up to date and future friendly and The link @bartelsmedia posted looks like it's dead. This repo maintains an updated list, but also provides a link to an API that lets you check a domain on-demand. https://github.com/ivolo/disposable-email-domains The API is simple, send a GET request here https://open.kickbox.com/v1/disposable/{DomainOrEmailAddress} and it will return a JSON response like {"disposable": true} (or false) I think that using a live service is preferable to relying on PW to continually update an internal database unless there's a special use case. Integrating this feature into the Pro form-based modules would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelsmedia Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, usualCommission said: I think that using a live service is preferable to relying on PW to continually update an internal database unless there's a special use case. Integrating this feature into the Pro form-based modules would be great. Such list should be pulled by Processwire. Otherwise, you would need to pass user email addresses to (unknown?!) third party. GDPR alert! ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireWire Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 hours ago, bartelsmedia said: Such list should be pulled by Processwire. Otherwise, you would need to pass user email addresses to (unknown?!) third party. GDPR alert! ? . You only have to send the domain, so your GET request would be: https://open.kickbox.com/v1/disposable/mailinator.com I'd write a server side validation script that makes a call to that endpoint and also have that script return data to AJAX requests. You get server side validation as well as a way for your client side validation scripts to make an AJAX call to your own server so your user's IP address is never exposed to a third party site either. If you wanted maximum privacy for your users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelsmedia Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 I really don't want to nit-pick, but sending the domain of "jon@jondonson.com" would still create a privacy issue. *sigh* Yes, I know, it is pedantic but GDPR legislation is harsh now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireWire Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, bartelsmedia said: I really don't want to nit-pick, but sending the domain of "jon@jondonson.com" would still create a privacy issue. *sigh* Yes, I know, it is pedantic but GDPR legislation is harsh now. 100% don't think it's pedantic. I think this needs to be part of the conversation for developers who look to implement features that are truly needed for a website to function well while considering security. As a dev in the U.S. we have a data free for all over here- but one day I might build a site/app with an international focus- other devs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbmnfktr Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, usualCommission said: As a dev in the U.S. we have a data free for all over here Didn't California pass a privacy law/bill/act in 2018 as a foundation for something similar to the GDPR? Oh... and in regards to the EU-US privacy shield and the GDPR-compliance of a company those have to follow the rules as well or have to find someone who certifies them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostKobrakai Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I'm not really sure, why this would need to be bundled with FormBuilder. The attached module is a totally self contained module, which downloads the list from the given github url. It automatically tries to update once a day and uses the etag/if-none-match headers to determine if the list itself changed, to prevent sending of the list if there wasn't a change. The list and the etag are stored using WireCache in the db. There's public api to fetch the list and check if a domain is in the list. To use it in FormBuilder hooks should be the answer. EmailSchreck.module 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireWire Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, LostKobrakai said: I'm not really sure, why this would need to be bundled with FormBuilder. The attached module is a totally self contained module, which downloads the list from the given github url. It automatically tries to update once a day and uses the etag/if-none-match headers to determine if the list itself changed, to prevent sending of the list if there wasn't a change. The list and the etag are stored using WireCache in the db. There's public api to fetch the list and check if a domain is in the list. To use it in FormBuilder hooks should be the answer. EmailSchreck.module 2.55 kB · 1 download Never knew about that module. Good share. Outside of having the manually coded implementation, an integrated approach would be great for those who aren't strong back end developers and wouldn't be comfortable digging into hooks. There is value in the behavior. One of the big draws of PW is it's raw power combined with ease of use which puts this kind of feature within the hands of developers like you and I but beyond many others. I couldn't find this module being listed anywhere that could be found. Is it something that you put together? If it's used by someone then having proper attribution is something that would be a good practice to keep going (myself included). Thanks again for the share. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireWire Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, wbmnfktr said: Didn't California pass a privacy law/bill/act in 2018 as a foundation for something similar to the GDPR? Oh... and in regards to the EU-US privacy shield and the GDPR-compliance of a company those have to follow the rules as well or have to find someone who certifies them anyway. Well- I live in California and I heard about the CCPA (California Consumer Privacy Act) and had to look it up. When I found the rules it put in place I remembered why- the requirements for entities having to comply with it are well outside of most companies. (Sharing the details here for anyone who stumbles upon this thread). Businesses that earn $25,000,000 or more a year in revenue Businesses that annually buy, receive, sell or share personal information of 50,000 or more consumers, households or devices for commercial purposes Business that derive 50% or more of its annual revenue from selling consumer personal information Basically- Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. are located here in California and this was targeting them. Apart from that politicians in America and the states within it basically dilute legal measures or do nothing at all. We're lucky in California we even got that. I also had to look up the EU-US privacy law and from what I understand that was basically the U.S. telling the EU that their privacy laws do not protect any American citizen in the EU (surprise). You're totally right about American companies operating with respect to actual EU citizens though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostKobrakai Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, usualCommission said: Never knew about that module. I just wrote that before posting it here. It didn‘t exist a few hours ago ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireWire Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, LostKobrakai said: I just wrote that before posting it here. It didn‘t exist a few hours ago ? ^This guy! Big thanks to that effort on your part. Another reason to love the PW forums... Here's something that would be pretty great- a companion to the Modules directory that serves to be a repo for snippets like this. I know there are a lot of people whipping up fixes for odds and ends that never got a proper module, are a module but need more work to integrate, or don't need one at all to work. Like a place for pure ProcessWire gists- or even just a directory of links to gists. If you want to whip that up and reply with it that would be great ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostKobrakai Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 10 hours ago, usualCommission said: Here's something that would be pretty great- a companion to the Modules directory that serves to be a repo for snippets like this. I'd much rather have this in the modules directory, but it still has potential: maybe some config, an option to add custom domains, fresh/stale status detection or a manual way to trigger list retrieval (also retrieve it on install). I mostly wanted to get the basics across and show that often times it's not too hard to implement stuff on your own. This became a 100 line file with maybe ~30 lines of actual business logic. I'd be happy if someone else would pick it up from here and properly support it as a module in the directory. I simply don't want to add more to the few stale modules I already have with no longer doing much work in processwire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcarver Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 10:08 PM, usualCommission said: Here's something that would be pretty great- a companion to the Modules directory that serves to be a repo for snippets like this. I know there are a lot of people whipping up fixes for odds and ends that never got a proper module, are a module but need more work to integrate, or don't need one at all to work. Like a place for pure ProcessWire gists- or even just a directory of links to gists. I wrote a script a while back to search for this kind of thing, though it doesn't spider Gitlab, PW gists or forum code yet. I've made a start at putting it online at pwgeeks.com. Currently only has about 60 items of over 1300 it has found to date - but as I massage it back to life, the directory will fill up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcarver Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Ok, I think the directory is about there now. Has about 1400 assets - many of which are not available via the modules directory. Enjoy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin S Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, netcarver said: Has about 1400 assets - many of which are not available via the modules directory. This is great, thanks! It would be cool if there was a filter option to show only assets that are not in the modules directory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcarver Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Yeah, it's pretty bare-bones at the moment. A form to allow folks to manually submit finds/report classification errors would be neat too. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragontattoo Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 cool thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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