This thread has been really helpful to read. It's interesting to hear how you all found ProcessWire, and it's different than I would have thought. Among other things, It makes me think we should target things like custom fields in our keyword strategy rather than things like jQuery. For instance, terms like 'custom fields cms' seem appropriate, and we don't appear for those right now. We do show up for 'jquery cms' (top of page 2, google) but that's not really a driver of traffic and more clear now that it's not what people are looking for.
Have you posted to Opensourcecms about their voting system? It seems to me that it should be quick fix to do - although not sure if there is anyone who cares enough (site feels like there is no one giving love for it).
I don't think this is a quick fix. I don't see a way around the problems with the system unless you tie the votes to accounts or reviews. What they are doing is tying it to an IP address and that's it. So all you need is a rotating IP (remember AOL?), proxy server, or even a cell phone, and you can vote as many times as you want. If you want to down/up vote something fast and en masse, then you just take that same concept an existing site with traffic and point a hidden iframe and image src to the voting mechanism... then every user unknowingly becomes a voter. It's a hugely flawed system. But not any more so than any others that allow anonymous votes. So it's not technically opensourcecms.com's fault, other than that they've chosen to accept the compromises associated with such a system. And those compromises are not obvious to most people that visit.
What it gets down to is that I think we're conditioned to give more legitimacy to such ratings than they deserve. For me, that's because I rely on Amazon's star ratings for when I buy stuff. But their system is pretty good– If someone wants to upvote or downvote something en masse, it's a bit hard to do because every vote has to be tied to a real person with a credit card number. It's easy for me to forget that other star-rating systems aren't nearly as legitimate as that.
Someone suggested earlier in the thread that they should tie every rating to a real review, and I agree with that. That would prevent automated attacks on the ratings system and make it a real pain for someone to try and manipulate the ratings. I think that's the only way you can give legitimacy to an anonymous 5-star ratings system like this.
PW is a weightlifter in the body of a ballerina (maybe you'll want to use this as a tagline)
I didn't realize it was viewed that way before you wrote it, but it's really quite a powerful metaphor and definitely makes me think a little differently about the software.
I was annoyed by the hosting "ads" too.
I do wish they had asked for permission before taking the logo and pasting it into the ads. On the other hand, they are still providing a good service to the community by hosting all the CMS demos and I know it can't be cheap and they've got a business to run. My opinion is that if they have to use those ads, then they should only use them on the CMSs they are hosting the demos for… because presumably they are using that hosting service to host the demos. I hope I can get in contact with someone there because it seems like they are overall a good service that is just making a few mistakes and maybe they just don't know how they are perceived.
…looking forward to see PW 2.2 and multilanguage support right out of the box soon.
I also want to clarify that this is multi-language support in the admin so that people can see PW's tools in their own language. This isn't a new solution for a multi-language web site on the front end. Though there is some crossover and some may find the additions handy for front-end stuff too. But this would not replace a full multi-language solution on the front end (like what LorGG is working on).
I must admit, I was initially a bit put off by the pink (
) but the video won me over.
) So I usually just read what other users had written. But I still think it's good that now PW is represented there. Many people visit this site and often they try out demo before making final decision.
