Beluga Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/php-fig/ogp03OHbVJ0 The framework interoperability guys are gathering forces to push newer versions of PHP. If Wordpress committed it would be a slam dunk... The above quote rings true to me. Any thoughts on when PW should drop 5.3 support and have 5.4 as a minimum? Or does it all depend on Wordpress ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwired Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Follow the processwire devbranch channel, it's all there http://processwire.com/talk/topic/3768-processwire-231-dev-branch/ PW is already compatible with PHP 5.4. It's unlikely that newer versions of PHP would breakProcessWire, but if for some reason it did, it will simply be updated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beluga Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 It's about setting a "radically" higher minimum requirement for a project like PW or WP or Joomla to pressure hosting services to offer newer versions of PHP. So in this scenario PW would have a minimum req. of PHP 5.5 by summer 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwired Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Funny that this thread was visible for 2 days and had only 1 reply. Actually it is not funny but more like a phenomena. Some questions just don't match with the forum zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 There's obviously merit to using newer versions of PHP and it would be nice to force hosts to be more up to date as this would in turn force software devs to keep up to date, as many already do, but I'm just not sure it would catch on. That said, it would probably only take a few of the more commonly-used programs like WordPress to push this and I could see it happening, definitely. I'd rather see it as a group effort though, with many devs throwing their hats into the ring and everyone getting a more equal share of the kudos surrounding the initiative, even if you do have to tout some big names to get some momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwired Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Since the modx evo php crash road I feel safer now on the pw road but can't help my self from feeling alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Alert is good - turns out with an update to another CMS a while ago there were too many sites that I had to update, whereas if it had been a scheduled part of my monthly checks then it would have felt less onerous. Of course if I switched them all to ProcessWire I'd also be fine But alert is good even with PW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beluga Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 The situation with web hosts (webhotels/shared hosting) and PHP 5.4+ looks surprisingly good in Finland. I researched the subject and discovered 58 out of 67 web hosts either offer PHP 5.4 or 5.5 right now or at the very least starting from summer 2014 (5.3 EOL is in July). The information comes from company websites or from customer service (I didn't receive a reply from 16 companies). An increasing number of web hosts give their customers the ability to switch PHP versions (with .htaccess or some web interface). It seems this trend will speed up the installation of fresh PHP versions. One company stated they will offer PHP 5.6 immediately after it is released. These new versions of popular PHP frameworks will require PHP 5.4: Laravel will be moving to 5.4 for its May 2014 release (said in the GoPHP5 thread). Version number will be 4.2. http://fuelphp.com/blogs/2013/08/2-0-an-update (comments) https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/wiki/3.0-Roadmap http://www.yiiframework.com/news/76/yii-2-0-alpha-is-released/ https://github.com/zendframework/zf2/pull/5229 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clsource Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 With very good and free application hosting alternatives like OpenShift I think WebHosts will have a hard time if they do not update their PHP versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beluga Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Let's do this. https://github.com/philsturgeon/phpversions.info http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2014/12/on-php-version-requirements.html http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2014/12/being-responsible-developer.html http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2014/12/php-install-statistics.html PW should go PHP 5.5 minimum with 3.0. Even WordPress is finally pushing 5.5 to web hosts. Anthony Ferrara had this to say to WP, though: The time to "work with hosts" was back in 2011 when the retirement of 5.2 was announced. Now, nearly 4 years later, it's just plain irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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