Start again with PW, CSS suggestions

[ausblick]

Hi

After a break dominated by Must-WP and Publii with ProcessWire, I finally found my way back. 
a. Which profile would you choose for a website with a blog inside?
b. Which CSS framework would you recommend for me a good start, I will build upon pagegrid page builder?  

Merci.

-O

Edited Wednesday at 08:49 PM by olivetree

[virtualgadjo]

Hi

welcome back to paradise 😄

In my case, let's keep it simple.

- blank profile for all sites
- and generally speaking, no CSS framework.

sorry, I realize that's a bit brief...
let me elaborate a little, i used bootstrap a lot which once was a good selling point for agencies: “the website will be responsive with bootstrap” boom, sold...
i still use it sometimes, but more for tools made up of forms and tables. In that case, i use purge.js and end up with a bootstrap of about 30 kb.

today, the trendy selling point would be tailwind, for me, no way!!! 😄 i love css too much (scss for me) and clean HTML without 20 utility classes per tag.
In the semantic vs. utility class debate, let's say I'm 90-95% semantic and 5-10% utility (my own little scss "framework" easy to modify and override without !important everywhere).

well, I'm not sure if any of this is very useful 🙂 but the idea is simple: processwire offers so much freedom in coding, the least i can do is taking full advantage of it so, starting point... bare pw 🙂

have a nice day

[ausblick]

Paradise 😉 Indeed, it's really beautiful here. 

@virtualgadjo Thank you very much for your explanations.  In fact, your approach is very exciting and quite different from what I would have expected.  The fact that you don't use a pre-packaged CSS “framework” for your design and visuals seems very extensive to me at first, until you have put together your own preferences and classes. Personally, I find utility classes helpful (i.e., I'm at 30-50%), but I understand your point and position very well. Until now, I didn't assume blank profile but rather the site-regular based on UIkit.

It would be interesting to know what others are doing and what they think and suggest.

[BrendonKoz]

I found it hard to answer your question because I've always started with a blank profile. It gives the most freedom without any constraints, to build a custom site as needed for the project right from the start. No more, no less.

I'm not sure which framework might work best with PageGrid, that would likely be a question for the PageGrid-specific forum. The last few sites I've built, I have taken advantage of Bootstrap with the assumption that if anyone were to need to maintain or edit after me, using something that is more ubiquitous would be useful. Beyond that reasoning, we can choose what we would like. Tailwind might be a better (or prettier?) option now, depending on certain factors. If it's a lightweight enough website in terms of elements/components to be used, vanilla CSS without a framework would be awesome.

[ausblick]

Many thanks @BrendonKoz for your thoughts and thanks for sharing. For me it is interesting that you also take the blank profile and start from there. 

I've already placed a PageGrid specific question in the PageGrid subforum.

[zoeck]

I assume that almost everyone who develops a new website in Processwire works with the Blank profile 🙂 

The other existing profiles are more suitable for familiarizing yourself with the system 🙂 

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1 hour ago, zoeck said:

I assume that almost everyone who develops a new website in Processwire works with the Blank profile 🙂 

The other existing profiles are more suitable for familiarizing yourself with the system 🙂 

@zoeck It seems so....  thanks for your answer.

[cwsoft]

When learning or testing PW, I would recommend to start with a non blank profile to get an idea and play around with stuff.

• https://github.com/processwire/site-invoices
• https://processwire.com/blog/posts/invoices-site-profile
• https://github.com/processwire/site-default

 When developing a new project, I start over with the blank profile. 

[ausblick]

Thanks @cwsoft for your hints, I'll check them.