"Permission “page-sort” for template “ ... ” not allowed (requires “page-edit” permission)"

[jonatan]

"Permission “page-sort” for template “ ... ” not allowed (requires “page-edit” permission)"

– This lovely error message is thrown at me, if, as implied by it, I try to add (to my "editor" role) the permission "page-sort" for a specific template, without the permission "page-edit" enabled for the same template.

Seems like it's been mentioned a few times before but never properly answered, by e.g. @Robin S ... :  

"Allow the granting of page-sort permission independent of page-edit": https://github.com/processwire/processwire-requests/issues/29
 

 

 

Why do I wanna do this?:

I have a page tree structure  ?  as so:

________________________

Category [C1]

• – Page a [C1_p]
• – Page b [C1_p]

Different category [C2]

• – Page c [C2_p]
• – Page d [C2_p]

________________________

The page "Category" has the page-template "C1",
the pages "Page a" and "Page b" both have the page-template "C1_p".

The page "Different category" has the page-template "C2"
the pages "Page c" and "Page d" both have the page-template "C2_p".

 

The two pages called "Category" and "Different category" do not have any content, they only serve as containers for pages belonging to that category.

 

I want my "editor" role not to be able to do anything at all with these pages "Category" and "Different category"; i.e. I do not want my editor to be able to edit, move, unpublish, hide, lock, delete (or do anything else to) these category pages. 
– So, I want my "editor" role to have the "page-edit" permission for pages with the templates "C1_p" and "C2_p", but not for the pages with the category templates "C1" and "C2",

Also, I want my "editor" role to be able to move the pages with the templates "C1_p" and "C2_p" within their parent-pages. 


Problem:

But if I just simply add the "page-edit" and the "page-move" permissions for the "C1_p" and "C2_p" templates, then, using the "editor" role, I am not able to move these "C1_p" (and "C2_p") -template-based pages. I can actually click "MOVE" next to them and then move them, but... then I will be met by the error message "You do not have permission to sort pages using this parent - /Category/".  
– So, I try to add the "page-sort" (description: "permission to sort child pages") permission to the "C1" and "C2" templates... but then trying to do so I am met by the initially mentioned error message   ! Permission “page-sort” for template “C1” not allowed (requires “page-edit” permission)  . 

And, as mentioned, I do not want my editor role users to be able to edit these category ("C1" and "C2") pages...

– what to do about this? ? 

 

All the best,
Jonatan 

[jonatan]

Oh and also, one more thing...

If I revoke the "page-move" permission from a template for my "editor" role, using the role I am still able to see the "MOVE" button next to the page.... why is that?? ?

[jonatan]

And also.... What if I want my editor role to ONLY be able to click "EDIT", and not ">" + "UNPUB" ? ... There seems to be no way to control whether a role can unpublish pages?