ProcessWire

[Leftfield]

Hi @ All,

I am Miljan and I've spent 10 years in various Joomla! teams and I love Joomla. Saw a lot of things, roads, milestones, changes, decisions and participated but my voice was not loud enough sometimes. Sometimes things went in the wrong direction. There is various CMSs - WordPress (brrr), Joomla!, Drupal, Typo etc etc. Ecommerce: Magento, Os etc etc... There is various frameworks: YII etc etc.

So, PLEASE guys, do not change much ProcessWire, especially in those directions, it is excellent as it is. It is fantastic!!!

DO NOT make media manager, do not make CMS features you can find everywhere. One thing will lead another and at the end PW would be just as any s*** we all escaped from. Please, improving core and adding here and there certain features would be fantastic.

The only thing, maybe, my suggestion, is to gather team (not suggesting myself because for a longer time I am not good programmer) to control modules quality attached to this web and check out the code for malicious things. That's all.

[gebeer]

I also came from Joomla and was so happy to discover ProcessWire. It was a game changer for me.

3 hours ago, Leftfield said:

DO NOT make media manager, do not make CMS features you can find everywhere

The good thing about PW is, that you can have all these things on demand as modules. So it is up to the developer to choose features they want to include on a site.

[Leftfield]

3 hours ago, gebeer said:

The good thing about PW is, that you can have all these things on demand as modules. So it is up to the developer to choose features they want to include on a site.

The main magic is You don't have to install any module to have media manager. There is a bunch of options. Make template "gallery", put all images on that page. Call images via tags or Page Reference or whereverver model you want. That flexibility and finding the best possible model makes me speechless.

The thing is, PW is not a pure CMS and it should stay that way.  This is so good I can't believe it exist. Kudos to Ryan and team!!!

[pwired]

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  So, PLEASE guys, do not change much ProcessWire, especially in those directions, it is excellent as it is. It is fantastic!!!

So true. I already begged for this years ago . . . However it is not happening. Processwire already has become over-engineered and keeps on getting stuffed.
Status Quo mind set also rules over Processwire.

[teppo]

6 hours ago, pwired said:

Processwire already has become over-engineered and keeps on getting stuffed.

I can't claim with a straight face that I would've wholeheartedly agreed with every single addition made during the past few years, but neither can I agree with this statement.

The truth is that whenever I work with pre-3.x versions of ProcessWire, it reminds me just how much more powerful the system is now. Keeping the system evolving and maintaining the balance is a difficult task, and I think Ryan has done a terrific job in that regard.

I guess my point is that more features doesn't automatically equal bloat. Sometimes more is just more: more options and more power. That's all.

[Leftfield]

1 hour ago, teppo said:

I guess my point is that more features doesn't automatically equal bloat. Sometimes more is just more: more options and more power. That's all.

Probably I don't have any rights to comment how far PW came since I started using it from the version 2.x. Of course it is hard to balance and I perfectly know what is mixing MVC and framework and CMS. If they ever listened me (in that time I came from the country which had bad reputation for leading the war against neighbors) Joomla! would stay on top of WordPress. For years Joomla! didn't do anything about SEF URLs and it costed that CMS so much. And it was so small effort and thing to do. Please, think about it.

Now, for two years I didn't touch any other CMS except PW and I am very very happy like never before and I am not developer.