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Many thanks @bernhard.

Hi @bernhard. I apologize for not being so specific, you're absolutely right. I just wanted to bring RockPageBuilder working with site-rockfrontend profile. Just to reflect. I can not recover every step anymore, but after installing and setup as in docs RPB was only shown with its functions on the home page, but not on basic-page. I was muddling around in tempaltes directory and tried dozens of combinations or single entries in single and/or in many template php files or in latte files with those snippets. PHP <?= $rockpagebuilder->render(true) ?> or Latte {if $page->template == 'basic-page'} {$rockpagebuilder->render()} {/if} or {$rockpagebuilder->render()} Yes there were red errors instead of fixing them. Then I just reinstalled pw with all modules needed. I've learnt so many aspects about PW, several rock-modules and site-rockfrontend profile and their structure. I know that is not a systematic and specific (not a best) way. I just wanted to have RockPageBuilder and site-rockfront having up/running, using an unstructured try and error workflow.

Hi @bernhard Unfortunately only the main page home worked with RockPageBuilder, with basic-page everything stuck. It made no step, where I placed either the code snippet or the latte directive. I reinstalled pw with all modules/site-rockfrontend needed several times, but it shouldnt be so complicated or tricky;-) I always downloaded the site-rockfrontend profile from https://processwire.com/modules/site-rock-frontend where version 1.0.0 is indicated as downloadable, but its the newst version on github. But now I used this version 1.3.2 on https://github.com/baumrock/site-rockfrontend/releases. And using this version - that worked also for other templates.

Many thanks @bernhard for your hints. Now it works. For me it was unclear where to put the render() snippet in, I understood where it I tried several files, but now it works. In the RockPageBuilder doc you mention using the site-blank profile, where all works, but I like the delayed output defined in site-rockfrontend.

Hi I intended to test RockPageBuilder with a fresh site-rockfrontend profile and most Rock-Modules. I installed page-edit-front and adjusted the profile in Rockfrontend to rockpagebuilder. Where to put the following render <?= $rockpagebuilder->render(true) ?> I tried to set it in different php/less files in /site/templates with this profile. Many thanks for a hint.

Hi @bernhard many thanks for your explanation. Yes, I see that there are use cases for both of them depending on user preferences or user knowledge.

Hi What are use cases for ListerPro or RockGrid? Are there any similarities or even differences between them? Many thanks

Hi I am currently setup a new staging instance and I asked myself if there are changes to the db privileges needed for PW since the last answers in this thread. MariaDB on my hosters site permits those privileges, but not all are neccessary for PW and modules I guess: ALTER ALTER ROUTINE CREATE CREATE ROUTINE CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES CREATE VIEW DELETE DROP EVENT EXECUTE INDEX INSERT LOCK TABLES REFERENCES SELECT SHOW VIEW TRIGGER UPDATE Any recommendations from your side? Many thanks

Vmany thanks @kongondo for your additional workstyle. VSCode seams to be definitely a nice tool. But I didnt reach the resource bottlenecks yet. For some config centric sysadmin work I used Sublime Text editor with Remote Subl and rmate on server, which let you work via ssh on external instances. I liked it configurability, I guess its the same work style like Vscode and remote dev. Currently I like the idea of a mix of using Vscode with its comfortable extensions and possibly I will stepwise adding the local ddev functionality, with those ingredients whats needed then.

Thanks @Ivan Gretsky for your VS input and the mention of cowboy coding. I will try VS remote dev out as an experiment and have @Sanyaissues mention about RAM monsters in VS code in the mind.

Many thanks for your hint @Ivan Gretsky, indeed this is an appraoch without having npm installed.

I am not a deep diving webdev like many of you. With WP I learnt many things about Bootstrap (used it via Livecanvas Builder) and build some things with CSS frameworks (Pure and Bulma). I decided to build my own website with another tool from ground up with pw;-) Since PW is available via Softaculous for the first steps its ok (install, db, and try pw admin), since it installes the intermediate site-profile, but then I wanted to go through the Pw install process itself, tested around, installed pw many times, installed different site-profiles to discover the different output strategies and tested @bernhards cool site-rockfrontend. And enjoy this friendly community with soooo many hints and ideas, even for PW beginners. Really great.

Thats true @elabx. I am coming from Bludit and WP, which were installed via hosters applications (softaculous) or one time via upload into the webdirectory. Then everything I've configured through the WebUI and optically adjusted through themes via an theme editor (wp greenshift odr livecanvas). I had a staging and an production instance, so everything took place on the external servers (and backups of course). I really seldom used an ftp/sftp access anymore or took the way via git like you mentioned configuring a website. It was no need for. I first read about DDEV in this forum, which seams quite interesting. Many thanks @bernhard for adding your RockMigrations deployment -> the collection of possible ways of work is still growing in all directions;-) Thats why I asked how you all work in my metnioned case, just to become an impression and ideas how others work/handle with pw. Because on the first sight as pw beginner, I had the idea everything is happening in the pw admin gui like in other CMSes. I recognize that there are workflows were a "click and configure" are not as efficient or effective as an API or local dev or so. I like that learning curve;-)

Many thanks @elabx @Sanyaissues @millipedia @TomPich @Jan Romero for your different views and workflows how you work with Pw and a external server. That is really helpful for me, because up to now all content, code, structure and templates were handled and setup on my previous CMSes I used. With PW it seams to be a bit different and I thought perhaps there are one or two best practices. But thanks to your answers I found a whole bunch of great possibilities. So cool. For me as pw beginner it's like starting with PW itself, I have to find my best way how to work and manage things with PW.

Many thanks @bernhard. Now I understand the mechanism behind. I didnt realized that this way changes are collected and rebuild into tailwinds css file(s).

Hi How to use site-rockfrontend tailwind css with site-rockend without having npm to gerate tailwindcss on a external webhoster? Just install the site-profile does not solve this, I suppose. I understood that npm is needed to generate the tailwind.css on a local dev box and put that then up to the external site. That makes sense. I just want to understand how to use tailwindcss in that combination without having npm locally and on the external site? Is that possible?

Thanks you very much for your short explanation. I use Litespeed already but not yet with Processwire, so your gained experiences in this field are really valuable.

As a pw newbie, I am curious. How do you work with processwire if you the processwire instance is located on an external server?

Hi I use on a webhosting equipped with a Litespeed webserver (not OpenLiteSpeed), which seams to be compatible with the .htaccess rules to Apache one. Everything seams to be working fine. But I ask myself if I should setup customer sites on Litespeed or better pure Apache. Some questions I am asking myself: Do definied rules of Apache 2.2 and 2.4 working together? Or does this just work out of the box for all Pro and other modules? Does anyone has some deeper technical experience if there are any incompabilities or expected problems between the rules and directives of apache and litespeed? Many thanks for some insights;-)

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For years I have had a hop-on/hop-off relationship between Windows and Linux. I am not and was not a Windows guy, coming from then SGIs desktops and their GUI. in the meantime I've had years of different hardware with many Linux distros (from Slackware, Debian to Suse to RedHat, Mint and many more), but also the very consistent OpenBSD and FreeBSD also as a desktop. With all these unixoids, I kept missing some of the necessary, even proprietary software, for school or my business, for which I had to run on a separate Windows box then becasue of hardware dongles. VM was not a seamless solution. The desktop applications and VMs of unixoid OSes are good, stable and fast today, hardware support is also good. But I had the feeling that it was often only about being able to configure everything, down to the last window, and often only to use an OS without software costs. That's good, but at some point I didn't liked configuring and system administration any more. I simply wanted a system that gave me a good GUI with a unixoid shell, basically a modern BeOS/Haiku OS. Then bought a mac, a macbook, then an imac. After that I tried it out again with a Win10 box. I didn't work quite as smoothly as with macos, but it also progressed. Hardware crashes with an AMD processor and a popular collaboration suite were difficult to solve as a lecturer during the pandemic. I solved this with a quick buy of a mac mini m1 and it still runs around with sensationally low power consumption (max. 36W). Almost green;-) And now 4 hardware steps further, lets see. Mac is not that only alternative, but it is also a usable one.

Yep, that way worked, so cool. Many thanks @bernhard.

In a PM email @bernhard asked me to try installing the module via directory. Will try.

Hi I am a PW newbie and try to install RockMigrations. What I did until now: Fresh PW install. I pointed to Baumrocks RockMigration repo on github. There I clicked on Code, downloaded the main as zip. Then I extracted the zip, changed the folders name to RockMigrations and compressed it as Zip again. Then I uploaded it to PW (yes, debug and upload permitted;-). Everything seems to be ok, I can install Rock Migrations within PW and by doing that MagicPages and the RockMigrationsGUI modules are also installed. My system realesed this warning message: "InputfieldTinyMCETools: settingsFile - File does not exist - /SERVERPATH/site/modules/RockMigrations/TinyMCE/simple.json" out that all is installed in /SERVERPATH/site/modules/MagicPages and for RockMigrations not as expected in /SERVERPATH/site/modules/RockMigrations/ Does anyone have a hint for me? Thank you in advance.