pwired

I'm a "webbuilder" working for a webdesign company and I use PW.

Consider your self double lucky !! Can only dream about this.

What's your experience pwired?

No one has ever asked me to do a new website in wp. I always could do it in modx evo and lately

in the superior pw, so my own choices.

However one client has asked me to maintain his website pattaya /\ plaza - com

This website is build with wordpress - so there you have it. I have to learn wordpress or

say no to this job. Which I can not afford because I need the money. Since a week I have

no regular job at the moment. It's big time crisis here in spain and more people end up on

the streets. Wished I started websites and php 10 years ago. There's always work for that.

No need to repeat how painful wp is compared to pw. We all know and the forum plus the net has many posts about it. Share with us what you do with clients or projects who ask you for wp - if any. Or maybe another asked cms. The issue is that more clients are going to know about wp and this is growing (19%) Don't get me wrong, for me pw is the choice but not always for a client or a (wp) project that needs to be picked up (maintained) for a client.

The team who once created modx are all top coders. I don't worry about them because top coders always find a source of income and go on with their lives, even in the current economic crisis.

I wouldn't be both in instant awe and totally content with my wife PW had I not lived with those 3 bitches J, D & WP

Any decent web developer knowing php will be able to step into advanced PW building without problems. Not true to other system I know of.

Totally true if you are talking directly to that decent web developer knowing php. But the thing is that during the project you won't be talking to him but to the client or some project manager. Otherwise they would not need you in the first place. Are you going to convince the client that any decent webdeveloper knowing php always can take over maintaining their website with pw ? Now that we have arrived here, I must say damn good question anyway and have now added it to my notes.

Yeah ok - not all of them - but some well prepared clients simply ask you 2 questions:

1. what cms are you going to use to build my website ?

2. who is going to maintain the website when you are no longer available / around anymore ?

For those reasons some clients want the website to be build with a cms also known by other people the client knows who can continue maintaining the website when you are not available or around anymore. Then it will be one of the established cms'es out there like wordpress or drupal. Those clients do not care that pw technically is superior to other cms'es and also can be taught to the client. They care about continuity and certainty.

First of all I think webbuilders who work for a webdesign company will never use pw because the company will dictate what cms to use, most probably not pw. So if you have your own webdesign company or work for your self or privately then you have the luxury to use the cms of your choice such as pw. But still have to say no every now and then to a client who asks you to build his website with wordpress. How does this occur to you guys when building websites ? In my case no one has ever asked me what cms I am going to use but then again my clients so far never thought about these matters and do not have a single clue about what is going on in the cms market.

Hi Tony, with pw, you found a cms that is going to save you a lot of time and headaches compared to the other cms'es out there.

I suggested not so long ago a channel in community support specially for newbies with pinned topics answering the same questions that are repeated by each newbie entering the forum. I still hope that Ryan will open such a newbie channel in this forum.

Lots of good posts answering newbie questions are now spread over the forum. Each time one of us bumps into such a post, remembers or knows such a post, he could copy it over to the newbie channel. I think this idea rocks.

http://processwire.com/talk/topic/1041-raydale-multimedia-a-case-study/

http://processwire.com/talk/topic/1041-raydale-multimedia-a-case-study/

http://processwire.com/talk/topic/1015-switching-from-drupal-to-processwire/page__view__findpost__p__8988

http://processwire.com/talk/topic/3691-tutorial-a-quick-guide-to-processwire-for-those-transitioning-from-modx/

http://processwire.com/talk/topic/2296-confused-by-pages/

Hi, Wordpress rattles the cage again with this article. Seems that wp makes up 19% of webpages

on the net and growing.

There are 46+ million downloads of WordPress and added 336 themes,
2.3 times more than last year. 9,334 plugins were requested, while 6,758
were approved, with a total of 26,000 to date in the library.

As for mobile, there have been 15 updates, 3 for iOS, 6 for Android and Windows Phone

in the past 12 months.

Anybody using WP next or besides PW ?

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/07/27/wordpress-now-powers-18-9-of-the-web-has-over-46m-downloads-according-to-founder-matt-mullenweg/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+TheNextWeb+%28The+Next+Web+All+Stories%29

To keep it in perspective:

http://www.sunarlim.com/2013/02/why-choose-processwire-over-wordpress/

Well done but you should add something to the homepage that it's also about booking tickets to see shows. While this might be obvious not everybody will get that at first visit of the homepage. The Book tickets button shows up after you click on a miniature show square on the homepage. On top in the menu that is on all pages you have shows theatres my account. Add something to it there that you can also book tickets. Also add a nice frame around all the miniature show squares to give it that more theatre look and feel. Hope this might be usefull for your site.
What about the spelling theatre ?  Wasn't the only acceptable spelling theater like -er as normal American spelling ? In the United States the customary spelling is theater, but the National Association of Theatre Owners uses the spelling theatre to refer to a movie theater. Theatre is also British spelling but somehow got accepted in most parts of America ? Like centre is British and center is American. Just wondering how these spellings actually are in your country since the British were part of the history of India during 1900. I think spelling is important on a website.

Like you keep a library with your reusable code snippets (html, css, js, php)

you can also keep your library of reusable parts of designs.

Yup, great interview as always Mary. That's how I remember you when I was once digging your articles, tuto's and posts about modx evo. Only this time it's about a never seen before cms that truly adapts to a user / client / designer and coder. Also liked it to read about how pw came to be together with the history of the man behind of it. Besides another good summary of the open potential of pw, the whole interview also inspires a newbie to try to make more out of projects with the help of pw.

Thanks for that link beluga. I learned a lot from lynda courses in the past.

Personally i find the notion of an archive in the web world a bit confusing, because most sites in itself are already archives in itself.

Technically spoken you are right, but for a visitor of the website a button that clearly says archive and connects to a huge list of sorted subjects and older articles saved somehow in an archive does make it more organized, faster accessible, look better and will be better maintainable. Thanks for the link to that module.

Also thanks diogo and soma for your tips.

 Add a title "Archive" and output all articles minus the newest.

Hi Soma, are you referring to the blog profile mentioned by Diogo ?

Hi I want to make a website with articles. But there has to be an archive where visitors of the website can go into the archive and look for older articles and subjects. Most likely there will be an obvious solution for this but I never made an archive and don't know how to set it up. Thanks in advance.

But I always try to anticipate their needs for the next few years and try to implement the system as flexible as possible. Can result in little higher fixed costs but after that they usually haven't to bother me for changing little or even medium details ;-)

I like that and made a note of it. That is a very good project issue to discuss with your client at forehand.

Builds professional relationship and trust with your client.

I guess it's all a market issue to find clients in your own working field. Some clients will look for an agency with employees in the first place who can offer not only creating a website but also a range of available services (such as updating and maintenance). But if such a website was not too big and I could handle such a website on my own, I guess I wouldn't say no to it.

 Not true. First of all I don't manipulate my prices depending on a potential cash flow.

You make it almost sound if I said something negative. What's wrong with charging a higher price for a hotel website compared to a local flower shop website ?

My goal is always to deliver a tool with which my customers don't need any support from me.

Not always a customer has somebody around that knows how to update a website, even if the website is done with pw. Not only building websites makes money but also updating them. To get service (update) contracts is very normal to earn money.

Wished I had the time for learning foundation 4. You guys seem to have lots of time there.

Nice website. Layout and style fits for a hotel. Hotels have usually a big cashflow so you can charge them more than a regular customer. I think that Hotels are interesting clients as well because they need updates to be done on the website. How did you catch this hotel website project ?

Much has been discussed about this during the time I was with modx evo and on their forums. FTP and mysql synctools are everywhere available such as Unison, Instantsyncftp, batchsyncftp, winscp - or - navicat, heidisql, sqlbuddy, etc. etc. etc. However, the problem is the database. You see - there are paths in the on-line database that simply depends on the server hosting your live website that are different from your local database.

Syncing the database between your local laptop and the on-line database can result in messing up these paths and result in disaster.

Besides that, it is not only you who is updating the database when for example editing a website. The on-line database updates itself also with for example the CACHE of the on-line website that totally depends on the visitors of your website.

Or for example a blog, users who subscribe to your website, counters, people who upload stuff to your website, etc. etc. Sooner or later the on-line database will be always out of sync with your local database on your laptop. If you sync then between them then data will get lost or overwritten on the on-line database.

While editing on your local website to cut and paste between your localhost install and the remote might not be as efficient, but it's much more disaster-proof. Only sync static files such as html, css and js. Try to keep them in 1 folder so you can easy update them with simple ftp between only 2 folders.

Yo dude, where do you find all that time to set all that up (plus the tutos) ? Amazing. We'll actually I am jealous

I don't have that time my self that I would love to spend on pw.

Ryan, I think it is time to make kongondo a tutorial pw ambassador !

Here's one more, 2038 + 1. Helpful and supporting pw (and probably coding) pro's like you deserve it.

Interesting for images text overlay also